Thanks Pam.  Does the toggle stay toggled, or do you have to do it each time 
you boot up?

Chip





Chip Orange
Florida Public Service Commission
Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314



-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 3:53 PM
To: Chip Orange; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: laptops and window-eyes

You can just change them to the regular mode by pressing function key 
escape.  If you want to have them go back to the way they are now, do it 
again.  It's a toggle.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Chip Orange via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:27 PM
To: Karyn Campbell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: laptops and window-eyes

Hi Karyn,

If the problem is just the function keys, it seems likely you could create a 
script for Window-eyes which sent the keystroke for the "real" function key 
each time a Lenovo function key was pressed (you'd lose this bit of extra 
functionality, being able to do whatever these function keys did which was 
unusual if you implemented such a script, but it would undo whatever Lenovo 
had done if there was no other way to handle it).

I'd guess there's a piece of Lenovo keyboard software which let you modify 
how the keyboard works, and it of course would be easier than writing your 
own script.

I also found, and have installed on my pc at home, a free keyboard mapping 
utility which let you make registry changes which controlled what keycodes 
were sent when each key on the keyboard was pressed.  This is likely what 
Lenovo has done when shipping these pcs, so with this utility you could 
essentially reverse it.  I used this utility on my Dell laptop because it 
had no applications key, which is a lot easier to use than shift-f10 when 
you want a context menu.  I used the utility to take some unused key on my 
keyboard and make it send the keycode for an applications key instead.  I 
may not have time until this weekend, but I could try and track down the 
name of this utility and post it here if anyone has need of it (or you might 
find it just by googling on windows keyboard remap and other such terms).

Chip





Chip Orange
Florida Public Service Commission
Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314



-----Original Message-----
From: Talk 
[mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 9:37 AM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: laptops and window-eyes

Pam,

You likely also have to use an extra key for some things as Lanovo is
infamous for the F keys across the topperforming media functions.  This
means, for example, to close anything you have to hit ctrl-function key-F4.
If you do this without the function key, it won't work.

We put Window-Eyes on a Lanovo at work and that was a mistake as no one can
get the thing to shut up despite the fact that I told them
ctrl-insert-function-F4 should work.

As you can tell, it is my recommendation to stay away from Lanovo anything.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, [email protected]
Using WE 9.2  on HP Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium 64-bit
with Office 2013 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home
premium 64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft Windows Defender
onAcer netbook as well as Macaffee Live Safe on HP Pavilion.

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