Then use your delete key -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marvin Commerford via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:34 PM To: Tom Kingston; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Pamela Dominguez Subject: Re: Windows 10 accessibility
I'm missing how this whole flipping thread is directly related to Window-Eyes! Is this the WE discussion list or a general Windows list now? It would realy be great to read about how users are working with WinX and Window-Eyes. Reading about how someone won't upgrade no matter what is honestly a total waste of time. Put that stuff on Facebook. On 5/12/2016 3:09 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: > I must be missing something. What exactly is it that you folks want to > keep out of date? > > Regards, > Tom > > > > On 5/12/2016 3:43 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote: >> The key word is defer. That means you can stop them for now, but >> they will try again later. Pam. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston via Talk >> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:23 PM >> To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Windows 10 accessibility >> >> Dennis, >> >> You can defer updates on Windows 10 Pro. >> You can disable the search box. >> I've yet to hear of anyone actually having a program uninstalled by >> Microsoft. And they only do it for pirated programs, which pirates >> deserve. But yes, in principle I agree with you. Then again, I was >> sickened by Apple's stance on privacy and refusing not to open a dead >> terrorist's phone, which he did not even own. So principles have >> their limitations. >> Virtually all of the privacy issues can be disabled. >> >> I'm not a fan of what Microsoft has done. But in many ways they're >> really only catching up with Apple, Google, and other providers who >> track every move we make, scan our email, and so on. Conversely, >> Windows >> 10 is more secure and fine-tuned for new processors, solid state >> drives, etc. >> >> Regards, >> Tom >> >> >> On 5/12/2016 2:00 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: >>> First I don't like microsoft automatically installs updates I want >>> the control to decide what does and doesn't get installed. Second I >>> have the search box disabled in windows 7 don't want it. I also >>> don't like that MS can go in and remotely remove a program. What if >>> they remove a valid >>> program. I also don't like the privacy concerns. When these issues >>> are >>> resolved to my satisfaction then and only then will I look at >>> windows 10. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Talk >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk >>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:50 PM >>> To: [email protected]; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>> Subject: RE: Windows 10 accessibility >>> >>> Rebekah >>> I'd like to talk to you off list, as I like the way you think. >>> *smiles* >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Talk >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk >>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:45 PM >>> To: 'Tom Kingston' <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes >>> Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Subject: RE: Windows 10 accessibility >>> >>> This is not in any way meant as a criticism, but as has already been >>> pointed out, I think people's fear of Windows 10 is based on >>> misinformation. >>> There's so much of that floating around, despite resources on >>> Bookshare and Google. There are many people on this List who are >>> successfully, and happily, using Windows 10. It's not as if >>> Microsoft is making us pay for the upgrade! It's free for Heaven's >>> sake! IE11, Firefox and Chrome are still there, so access to the >>> internet will stay the same, as will word >>> processors and e-mail programs. "My Computer" or "Computer" is now >>> called >>> "This PC". So? There are so many options that allow a person to >>> configure settings, the Start screen and menu, the Search box, the >>> Taskbar, This PC... >>> The Desktop is still there. Privacy settings and Cortana can be >>> turned off, indeed, Cortana is not available with all the privacy >>> settings turned off so that Microsoft cannot get its eyes, ears and >>> fingers into the computer.. >>> I had sighted help for the actual upgrade, and I did ask my tech to >>> take off all the stuff on the right side of the Start screen, only >>> because he could do it far faster with the mouse than I could with >>> the keyboard. When I called the Microsoft Disability Desk with a >>> question about something, the guy commented that my screen looked >>> exactly like Windows 7, which is how I want it. If I have to tab or >>> arrow around five times to get to something on the right side of the >>> screen, that's not an efficient use of my time. >>> Get >>> it off my screen! Smile. >>> If someone does not know where something is, or what it's called >>> precisely, the Search box is a wonderful resource. >>> Google is still my Home Page, and Google is still my Search Engine. >>> And the >>> Search box on the Start Menu in Windows 10 can be set to exclude the >>> internet, so do I care if Microsoft uses Bing to bring up internet >>> results. >>> If I want the Internet, I go to my Google Home Page and ask Google. >>> Smile. >>> A sighted person may want Cortana, but Window-Eyes already talks to me! >>> Edge is not yet accessible, but as someone pointed out, there are >>> three other Browsers to choose from. >>> JMO. Smile. >>> Rebecca >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Talk >>> [mailto:[email protected] >>> om] >>> On >>> >>> Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk >>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:31 PM Microsoft was stopped *in >>> court* many years ago from forcing its browser on us. So it's not >>> going to happen no matter what the fear mongers say. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgbowl >>> es%40msn >>> >>> >>> .com. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennis >>> l1982%40 >>> >>> >>> gmail.com. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%4 0charter.net. >>> >>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40opton line.net. >> >> >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mcommerford%40 comcast.net. > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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