Not strange at all. From the beginning of man's existance, he has tried to manipulate his environment to suit his wants and needs. Man will continue to "progress" regardless of what each individual does. Maybe in 20 years, the internet as we know it, won't exist.

On 5/20/2016 12:46 AM, Butch Bussen wrote:
Strange comparison.  Well, same old same old.  Just because some folks
love their i phones, they think it is the answer for every one.  I don't
think my car would go very far if I replaced its wheels with i phones.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Thu, 19 May 2016, Nick Sarames wrote:

This applies to everyone.  It's how we got from the wheel to the iPhone.

On 5/19/2016 11:22 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote:
 Yep, and no matter what they come out with, we're told, upgrade,
 upgrade, this is better.  I still miss mouse keys in explorer.  I was
 trying to order some stuff on amazon this evening and couldn't get
 logged in, this was on a windows seven machine and latest explorer.  I
 finally went back to my xp and old explorer and although it barked
at me
 about some script slowing the page down, it worked fine.  Got to keep
 drinking that ms cool aid.
 73
 Butch
 WA0VJR
 Node 3148
 Wallace, ks.


 On Thu, 19 May 2016, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:

>  Well, old man, some of us aren't as old as you and if you think
really
>  really hard, maybe you can figure this one out as well. Some of us
>  actually work for a living. This means not every one can just go
>  installing whatever browser we want on our machine. I'm sure you
never
>  thought about that either while you're sitting there collecting your
>  government checks. I realize you are not a forward thinker, but some
>  people can actually see the direction MS is headed. They can and most
>  certainly will force you to use whatever they damn well please.
Not to
>  mention all the many apps coming out that are using the Edge browser
>  with no way to change it.
> > >  Now go back to sticking that big head of yours in the sand.
> > >  On 5/18/2016 10:31 PM, Tom Kingston wrote:
> >  Yes, in fact, Jack, I have done a lot of research. It's why I'm not
> >  having
> >   a coronary over Edge. What will come in the future means
absolutely
> >   nothing today. Take that to the bank and deposit it. You may
get some
> >   interest on it. Then again, why bother? After all we will all die
> >  one day.
> >   And that's a fact. Oh but wait! There is Firefox and chrome.
And I > >   hear
> >   those browsers are eternal. Maybe they're the Stairway to Heaven
> >  Zeppelin
> >   was referring to.
> > > >   John Bonham
> > > >   On 5/18/2016 9:34 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:
> > >   You're entitled to your own opinion, but have you done any
actual
> > >   research to find out what's really going on in the world? For
> >  example,
> > >   Win10 is the last version that will have Internet Explorer.
That's > > >   a
> > >   fact, jack. Look it up if you don't believe me.
> > > > >   On 5/18/2016 5:11 PM, Tom Kingston wrote:
> > > >   This is just my personal opinion. So take it for what it's
worth.
> > > > > >   Edge accessibility will come. Microsoft is not going to
> >  force us to
> > > >   use only Edge as someone on this list likes to say.
> > > > > >   Regarding searching from the Cortana search box? Yes, that
> >  is tied to
> > > >   Edge now. But for me, so what. My browser is pinned to the
Task > > > >   bar
> > > >   and my home page is Google. So when I press Windows+1 IE
opens,
> >  Google
> > > >   loads, I'm in the search box, and browse mode toggles off.
So I
> >  press
> > > >   one key combination, type my text, hit enter, and I've got my
> >  results
> > > >   without anything else in my start menu or on my system.
Yes, it > > > >   may
> > > >   take me a second or two longer. but on the other hand, I can
> >  activate
> > > >   a link and then hit Alt-Left arrow to go back to the search
> >  results. I
> > > >   don't know why this fly is turning into a vulture that's
> >  threatening
> > > >   civilization as we know it. ;)
> > > > > >   Regards,
> > > >   Tom
> > > > > > > >   On 5/18/2016 2:33 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:
> > > > >   Since I only use Win-eyes for now I wouldn't know about
other
> >  screen
> > > > >   readers. However, my original message is not to be
critical of
> > > > >   Win-eyes.
> > > > >   It's more out of frustration as to the direction that MS is
> > going > > >   with
> > > > >   Edge and if  accessibility is not provided to it soon
with in
> > the > > >   near
> > > > >   future I feel we'll be left behind.
> > > > > > > >   On 5/18/2016 1:23 PM, Kevin Huber wrote:
> > > > > >   Hi Stephen:
> > > > > > > > > >   I understand what you are saying and I totally
agree
> >  with you, but > > > >  I
> > > > > >   have one question.
> > > > > >   Do any of the other screen readers have  Edge
accessibility
> > built > > > >   into
> > > > > >   them?
> > > > > >   Kevin Huber
> > > > > > > > > >   On 5/17/16, Stephen Clark via Talk
> >  <[email protected]> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >   Speaking of Windows 10 and the need for Window-eyes
> >  support for > > > > >  Edge,
> > > > > > >   has any one noticed the following recent change? When
you
> >  do a > > > > >  search
> > > > > > >   from the start menu and you press enter to search the
web
> > for > > > > >   your
> > > > > > >   result, it will now only bring up Edge regardless of
what
> > your > > > > >   default
> > > > > > >   web browser is. As far as I'm aware there is no way to
> > change > > > > >   this
> > > > > > >   behavior.
> > > > > > > > > > > >   ==Steve
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