Stephen,
I apologize for returning your attack. I should have turned the other cheek.
I'll ask you one very simple question. Can you give me one single real
world reason how lack of access to Edge today is impairing your ability
to work or use your computer?
I'll take your word that some apps can use only Edge. But in the real
world Windows apps are a joke. And yes, Microsoft can make Edge the
default for searching using their start menu in their operating system.
They have every right to do so. It does not hinder anyone in any way.
Microsoft will eventually make Edge accessible. They cannot force you to
use Edge, which they are not doing now. That was settled in court many
years ago. If you're irate because you can't use an app, what can I say?
This is the world of blindness wherein this is common regardless of the
platform you're on.
From Microsoft:
"Internet Explorer 11 will be supported for the life of Windows 7,
Windows 8.1, and Windows 10."
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/WindowsForBusiness/End-of-IE-support
It will be years before everyone is on Windows 10. And it's the only
place Edge is available.
Regarding your stream of personal insults? I'm a programmer for the
North American division of a German fiber optic company as well as the
town I live in. This is why I'm on a computer all day. I have compassion
for those who are unemployed. It is very difficult for a blind person to
find work in this world regardless of their qualifications. Life is not
and never will be fair to all.
I apologize for the initial statement of my opinion, but only to you. I
had no idea that such a simple message, prefaced in the way it was,
could wreak such havoc. Please hit Delete whenever you see my name on a
message. Or better yet, create a filter to dump me in the trash.
Regards,
Tom
On 5/19/2016 10:39 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:
Well, old man, some of us aren't as old as you and if you think really
really hard, maybe you can figure this one out as well. Some of us
actually work for a living. This means not every one can just go
installing whatever browser we want on our machine. I'm sure you never
thought about that either while you're sitting there collecting your
government checks. I realize you are not a forward thinker, but some
people can actually see the direction MS is headed. They can and most
certainly will force you to use whatever they damn well please. Not to
mention all the many apps coming out that are using the Edge browser
with no way to change it.
Now go back to sticking that big head of yours in the sand.
On 5/18/2016 10:31 PM, Tom Kingston wrote:
Yes, in fact, Jack, I have done a lot of research. It's why I'm not
having a coronary over Edge. What will come in the future means
absolutely nothing today. Take that to the bank and deposit it. You
may get some interest on it. Then again, why bother? After all we will
all die one day. And that's a fact. Oh but wait! There is Firefox and
chrome. And I hear those browsers are eternal. Maybe they're the
Stairway to Heaven Zeppelin was referring to.
John Bonham
On 5/18/2016 9:34 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:
You're entitled to your own opinion, but have you done any actual
research to find out what's really going on in the world? For example,
Win10 is the last version that will have Internet Explorer. That's a
fact, jack. Look it up if you don't believe me.
On 5/18/2016 5:11 PM, Tom Kingston wrote:
This is just my personal opinion. So take it for what it's worth.
Edge accessibility will come. Microsoft is not going to force us to
use only Edge as someone on this list likes to say.
Regarding searching from the Cortana search box? Yes, that is tied to
Edge now. But for me, so what. My browser is pinned to the Task bar
and my home page is Google. So when I press Windows+1 IE opens, Google
loads, I'm in the search box, and browse mode toggles off. So I press
one key combination, type my text, hit enter, and I've got my results
without anything else in my start menu or on my system. Yes, it may
take me a second or two longer. but on the other hand, I can activate
a link and then hit Alt-Left arrow to go back to the search results. I
don't know why this fly is turning into a vulture that's threatening
civilization as we know it. ;)
Regards,
Tom
On 5/18/2016 2:33 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:
Since I only use Win-eyes for now I wouldn't know about other screen
readers. However, my original message is not to be critical of
Win-eyes.
It's more out of frustration as to the direction that MS is going with
Edge and if accessibility is not provided to it soon with in the near
future I feel we'll be left behind.
On 5/18/2016 1:23 PM, Kevin Huber wrote:
Hi Stephen:
I understand what you are saying and I totally agree with you, but I
have one question.
Do any of the other screen readers have Edge accessibility built
into
them?
Kevin Huber
On 5/17/16, Stephen Clark via Talk <[email protected]>
wrote:
Speaking of Windows 10 and the need for Window-eyes support for
Edge,
has any one noticed the following recent change? When you do a
search
from the start menu and you press enter to search the web for your
result, it will now only bring up Edge regardless of what your
default
web browser is. As far as I'm aware there is no way to change this
behavior.
==Steve
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