Hi Marc. Happy to do as yu request, but need to know how - i.e. the steps I need to take to send you (off list) a problem combo box. I do not run any other screen reader, but can check with NVDA if that is helpful. However: My caution is that I don't like NVDA, so any findings might be unreliable due to lack of familiarity.
David's description below seems very similar to my experiences. Thanks. Vaughan. -----Original Message----- From: Marc Solomon [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2016 11:06 p.m. To: Window-Eyes Discussion List; net bat; Vaughan Dodd Subject: Re: Consistent problem with combo box on bank site David and Vaughn, Can either of you confirm that this behavior is specific to Window-Eyes. I ask because it is possible that the form controls are not implemented in a compliant and accessible way. Also, if you can share a publicly available combo box that exhibits this behavior, we could better investigate the issue. Thanks, Marc Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On June 30, 2016 2:35:07 AM David via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, if this is the same kind of behavior I am experiencing with my > bank, your advice does not work. What happens in my case is that the > dropdown control is reported as an editbox. Hence, turning off browse > mode, I sure can arrow up and down the list, but the speech won't > report anything, even if the contents on the screen alters. So, the > screen will go from payee1 to payee2 and payee3, when I down-arrow - > but the speech keeps quiet. Tabbing away from the control, and then > back again, the selected payee name will be spoken, as it is the > current content in the editbox. Now, imagine I have arrowed down 5 > times, meaning that payee5 is selected and displayed in the box. I do > not know if this was the right payee, so I tab once, Shift-Tab back > again, and hear the name spoken. And I realize it was not the right > one. So I once again try pressing the down-arrow key. But what happens > then, is that the whole thing starts at the top of the list, meaning > that I will have to press Down-arrow six times this turn, to get to > the payee just beneath the one I was at. > > I sure have tried the Alt-Down combo, but to no avail. Guess as long > as WE recognizes the control as an editbox, it does treat it as such, > no matter if the recognition was wrong. This has been an issue for me > for a long time, and I did report it a while back, with no fix for the > last three updates of the screen reader. I do second the initial > message here, PLEASE have WE recognize this kind of controls as the > kind of combo-edit-boxes they are. > > I do not run a Braille display here at the moment, so cannot confirm > to what extent things show up correctly on the Braille; but do rely on > the reported behavior. If the Braille copies what is on the screen, > WHY not the speech? Please, could we have an explanation from the staff here? > > > > David > > On 6/30/2016 4:19 AM, net bat via Talk wrote: >> if you used a keyboard you would press enter on the combo box to turn >> browse mode off then use alt down arrow to go through the list then >> tab to get to the next combo box and alt down arrow for this one too. >> both with browse mode off. >> i don't know how you would do this with brail. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 6:30 PM >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: Consistent problem with combo box on bank site >> >> Greetings all. >> >> Hope that the new corporate will fix the below when Window-eyes >> version 9.5 or 10 comes out? >> >> My online banking site uses a combo box from within which to select a >> specific payee. >> >> When moving up or down the list with standard cursor movement keys, >> speech drops out, but braille tracks perfectly. According to my >> display - the payee number is listed on the left, and the payee name >> is listed on the right. Those who do not have braille would find >> this aspect of the bank's site inaccessible. >> >> Using Internet Explorer version 11, on a Windows seven installation. >> Window-Eyes v9.4. Now that I know it to be a consistent behaviour >> with the configuration I've just described, will try with Firefox and >> Chrome at home to see if I have improved access. >> >> Vaughan. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> This email and any attachments may contain information that is >> confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the >> intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or >> duplication of this email and attachments is prohibited. If you have >> received this email in error please notify the author immediately and >> erase all copies of the email and attachments. 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