Chris,
As I think I have made quite clear in my previous posts to Rod, I have
no problem doing what is necessary to assure that I have indeed selected
an entire word unit using f8, that is moving from the first letter of
the word to the last character and once again pressing f8. I will take
f8 on its own turns. But It is been proven to me by my own hand that in
text editors or word processors, that using ctrl-right or left arrow,
while maybe appearing to only select or unselect the first letter,
actually select the entire word, and that can be proven simply by
copying what has been selected and placing it at the end of the
document, and taking a look at your work.
Again, technically, you may indeed be right, but for all intents and
purposes, the entire word unit is selected.
I am not demanding a change when it comes to f8, all though I really
would find it more convenient to be able to by default, select an entire
word unit, rather than just the first letter, because that is usually
what is meant by using the ctrl-shift arrow keys when editing as
normally excepted standard procedure.
As I've indicated, this isn't the proverbial show-stopper, just a
relatively minor irritation.
Indeed, if most users of this method have no problem with the present
state of affairs, I am willing to concede my minority status and get on
with the rest of my life <smile>.
Have a great day, and keep up your great work,
Larry
On 7/18/2016 8:43 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
Hi Chris,
Yes, your point is well made and taken, and yet Larry's point is that with
the normal selection method accomplished using Shift and the arrow keys,
words are selected as one navigates to them.
Personally, I've come to develop some memory cues in order to remind myself
what I'm doing and in which context.
It's still easy to get confused, though. smile
Best,
Rod
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 7:43 AM
To: Larry Higgins <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: RE: selecting text and f8 key
This is standard behavior when using control-left and control-right in any
text editor.
Your cursor lands on the first character of the word.
When you use f8 you are placing a marker where your cursor is. Pressing f8
the second time places the second marker where your cursor is. If it is in
the beginning of the word or middle it selects between the two points.
Chris
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Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:33 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
Well Pam, here is an example. I just copied from a message about an up
coming Internet radio show, using f8 and this is how it came out after I
used the right arrow with the control keys to highlight words.
"After a two-week absence, I'm back with my top Shelf Oldies s."
That last word is supposed to be show. Now if I continue arrowing without
holding down the ctrl key, I can take in the whole word, but not when using
the ctrl key.
As in some other cases, this isn't a show stopper, just an inconvenience. I
can live with it, just wish I didn't have too <smile>.
On 7/15/2016 7:54 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
> I have never heard of f8 working like that. It selects the whole
> thing for me. Pam.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 4:51 PM
> To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>
> Robert, going to the end of a word or line indeed works, however,
> normally when making a word selection in practically any editing
> program, or in a text reader when using the control-shift arrow keys
> you are selecting a whole word at a time, where as with the f8 method,
> you will only be selecting the first character of the word. If I am
> alone in this experience, I would surely like to get to the bottom of why.
> Anyway, that is the way f8 has always worked for me.
>
> On 7/15/2016 2:17 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
>> 'It doesn't work that way for me.
>>
>> I just do a F8 at the beginning of the word or sentence and then an
>> F8 on the last letter or punctuation that I want to copy and then a C.
>>
>> Then of course I go to where I want to put the info and do a ctrl V.
>>
>> -Bob Ringwald
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:17 AM
>> To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Reg Webb'
>> Subject: Re: selecting text and f8 key
>>
>> I feel the need to interject her to say that when using the F8 method
>> in brows mode control and right arrow keys to highlight words, that
>> on the last desired word, that you must at that point highlight each
>> individual character up to the end, because you will only get the
>> first character on that last word. Just a quirk of the F8 way of
>> doing things, but a fact/quirk nevertheless.,
>>
>> Of course, if you just wish to use the home and end keys for
>> selecting to the end of a line,then this is not an issue, but if you
>> wish to lift only a word or two, this could get to be rather
>> frustrating until you figure it out. I mean, it just isn't supposed to
work that way.
>>
>>
>> On 7/15/2016 6:19 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
>>> Ok, thanks, got it.
>>> Don
>>>
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