Glad you got it figured out.

My guess is, even though wild, that you will experience similar issues, should you change the I with a V or X in your sample line. V is the Roman Number 5, and X is 10 - so your synth may read those numbers to you. Could be interesting to know if this is the case. I did use to have Paul and Kate installed, but currently don't, so cannot do the testing of my idea right off-hand.

To handle the issue, my suggestion would be to install the Extended Dictionary, since you then could make an entry that took care of a comma, space and capitalized I sequence, and forced the voice to recognize that as a legal English word. The basic exception dictionary of Window-Eyes won't let you do this kind of tweaking, due to it not honoring non-textual characters.


David

On 7/23/2016 2:59 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Thanks to the Window-Eyes staff and David, my problem has been solved. First, I am using Neospeech Paul or Voiceware Paul, whichever you choose to call the voice. It appears the problem here is the comma after the word "hi" and before the letter "I." If I break the line, it says "i" and if I choose another voice, it says "i" meaning that the VWPaul voice must have a feature which allows for Roman Numerals. I will also check my WE settings to see if there is another option. After playing with my settings, I have determined that the issue is with the voice, not Window-Eyes. Thank you for the assistance, I am sure. OK, now that I have that figured out, the I after the comma next to the word assistance, does say I, not one as I might expect, grin. Anyway, it is no big deal, I just couldn't figure out why it was saying one. And, it has not done it anywhere else except in the example I referred to earlier. Everyone have a nice weekend.

Carol



On 7/22/2016 8:31 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
Eloquence's pronunciation of many words does depend on the context. So I wouldn't be completely surprised if I was interpreted as a Roman numeral 1 in a few cases.



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-----Original Message----- From: David via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 8:28 PM
To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: strange speaking of character

OK, I am using Eloquence, and Thunderbird. Reading to the end, or
arrowing line by line, it doesn't matter - I do not see the behavior you
are experiencing, sorry. Yet, I do appreciate that you may have another
synthesizer, and you may have settings or even apps that could cause
this kind of behavior, so the following will be of general interest,
annd hence you will have to do a bit of playing to see what would help
you out.

Looking through the line in question, the main differences between the
two I's, that I noticed, is that there is a comma at the end of the
preceeding word of the first I. Now, if some ap you have installed, or
even your synthesizer's firmware interprets a capitalized I in the
beginning of a clause, should be pronounced as the Roman number 1, you
are right at the core of the issue.

Solutions?
My first go, would have been to copy the line in question to a blank
document in something like Notepad. This so as to let you play around
with it, without disturbing anything. try to edit the line, removing the
comma, and then let the synthesizer read it out to you. Does the same
behavior display? Try leaving the comma in place, but break the phrase
into two different lines, that the first line will hold the text up to
the comma, and the second line will start out with the first I. Arrow up
and down, realizing how your synth will do the job.

If any of the above would improve the speech, chances are that my guess
had something to it - your screen reader interprets the first I as Roman
number 1. Numerous reasons could play their role, the two main ones
would be the synth used may have this kind of built-in interpretation,
and the second one would be any apps you have installed. So try turning
off any apps that may have an impact on your textual interpretation. I
do know, there used to exist an app on App Central for making the speech
read out Roman numbers correctly, so if you happen to be a user of that
one, it might be one to turn off for the testing. And again, changing
the synth may be the whole solution worth.

Hope any of this would prove helpful in your tracing the reason for this
behavior. Like I said, I did not hear the pronunciation you described.
To me, both the I's were spoken properly as what they inreality are, the
capitalized letter I. this even if arrowed up and down, or left and
right through your sample line. There did exist no difference in the
pronunciation. Hence, you may have something in use on your system, that
causes this kind of behavior to come through.

Like others on the list, if you happen to trace a possible reason for
the behavior, would you mind to post the results to the list? At least
it would be of informative value. And who knows, probably it could be
the basis for some kind of "fixing app". :)


David

On 7/22/2016 6:05 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Can anyone explain why my screen says two different things when pronouncing the first "I" in the below partial sentence?

Hi Carol, I will let you know if I

This was in an email and when I opened the message, both of the I's said "eye". When I arrowed through the message, one line at a time, the first "I" was spoken as "one" and the second was spoken as "eye." As far as I can tell, they both have the same unicode symbol and everything seems equal. Yes, I know it is not a big deal, I am just puzzled as to why it would happen. Thanks. Also, I sent this message to myself before sending it to the group and it still does the same thing. There are many I's in this message and they all are spoken correctly except the one in the message. Really, I am mostly curious as to why only one letter would change its pronunciation

Carol

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On 7/22/2016 6:05 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
Can anyone explain why my screen says two different things when pronouncing the first "I" in the below partial sentence?

Hi Carol, I will let you know if I

This was in an email and when I opened the message, both of the I's said "eye". When I arrowed through the message, one line at a time, the first "I" was spoken as "one" and the second was spoken as "eye." As far as I can tell, they both have the same unicode symbol and everything seems equal. Yes, I know it is not a big deal, I am just puzzled as to why it would happen. Thanks. Also, I sent this message to myself before sending it to the group and it still does the same thing. There are many I's in this message and they all are spoken correctly except the one in the message. Really, I am mostly curious as to why only one letter would change its pronunciation

Carol

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