Hi Davy,
Just to clarify, we didn't need NVDA until after the update was installed and 
the computer rebooted. And, most users were able to install the update without 
any issues or need for NVDA. Ai Squared has a beta testing team that vets all 
new versions of Window-Eyes before they are released to the public. But, it is 
impossible to account for all possible combinations of hardware and software 
being used by the Window-Eyes community. So, issues showing up after a release 
are bound to happen. That is the nature of software. Thanks for your patience 
and understanding.
Best,
Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: Davy Cuppens [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 5:47 AM
To: Marc Solomon <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: windyes stop speakingafter upgrade

Hi Marc

It went the same way like you mentioned here in Belgium, I needed to start NVDA 
to complete installation.

One question I have not meant as critics: maybe if this package had been 
betatested, the less problems people should have encountered. I am sure that 
for advanced windows users like you and me, it is only a little annoyance but 
we will overcome, but for maybe some beginners this is really difficult stuff.

Regards
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:14 PM
To: Brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: windyes stop speakingafter upgrade

I helped a client download and install the 9.5.1 update on two machines this 
morning. One was a Windows 7 desktop and the other was a Windows 10 laptop. 
I always go to the update website and download the installer instead of 
choosing the option that runs the update as soon as it is downloaded. Using 
this strategy seems to lessen the chance of issues but does not eliminate them 
altogether.
For example, after installing the update on the Windows 7 PC and rebooting, 
Window-Eyes was not reading anything useful. It wouldn't read the Desktop, 
Start Menu or Window-Eyes control panel. It would only echo keystrokes when 
they were pressed. We then launched NVDA just so we could restart the PC. 
After the second reboot, Window-Eyes came up talking and everything was working 
as expected. The update went flawlessly on the Windows 10 laptop. 
No issues at all.
Best,
Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
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Brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:18 PM
To: talk window eyes <[email protected]>
Subject: windyes stop speakingafter upgrade

wineyes stop working after new release. once the system rebooted, wineyes was 
no where to be found. From the run dialog I type wineyes.exe and hit enter and 
I received an error message. I did a print screen was all that a big of a file, 
some where around 7,000 kb. Working with NVDA isn't all the pleasant. Anyone 
else having this same issue?
window vista, current wineyes release.

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