I feel it helps if people are familiar with using menus before introducing 
shortcuts  
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> On 5 Sep 2016, at 8:45 pm, Steve Nutt via Talk <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> I agree with you here.  For example, to open a file, I usually teach the
> menu method first, if for example you're in Word, press Alt, then F, then O
> then open your file.  I then teach Control-O once they are familiar with
> that way of doing it.  So I teach the longest way round first, then
> gradually get the student more efficient.
> 
> By the way, Sky's method of opening Word would not work in Windows XP.  So I
> always teach a method that will work in all versions of Windows.
> 
> Press the Windows key and R, then type Winword.
> 
> It works everywhere.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Jim via Talk
> Sent: 31 August 2016 02:37
> To: Larry Higgins <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Who's going to take over the tutorials now that Mark is gone?
> 
> Sky, I would
> 
>  like to respectfully disagree with your suggestion.  When I was taking an
> algebra class in college, my professor would give several methods for
> solving problems.  A lot of students didn't like this.  I happen to be in
> the minority.  I liked it, because if one method didn't work I would have
> another method to try.  For example, some students liked to use graphing to
> solve a problem while I preferred using the quadratic formula to solve
> problems when that was possible. I feel that the more ways we have to solve
> an issue the better off we are.  OK, I understand that for a beginner too
> many ways might be a bit confusing, but as long as one isn't overwhelmed
> with info, having more than one way to solved a problem deffinetly works
> well for me!  Just another suggestion.  Have A Good 1! de <KF8LT><Jim>.
>> On 30-Aug-16 21:23, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>> Sorry Sky, but I just can't resist. Are you applying for the position
>> <smile>?
>> 
>>> On 8/30/2016 7:44 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:
>>> Well, Steven Klower does the Window-Eyes tutorials, but I have a few
>>> suggestions for how the tutorials could be improved.
>>> 
>>> 1. When training clients, I always stick to one way of doing things. 
>>> What
>>> that means, is I only do one method of showing the clents how to do 
>>> things.
>>> Showing multiple ways can often clutter up the mind of the person who is
>>> learning any screen reader, such as Window-Eyes.
>>> 
>>> 2. The tutorials need to be presented in a easier-to-understand 
>>> language. It
>>> should provide steps for accomplishing things, such as, to open up 
>>> Microsoft
>>> word, do the following.
>>> 
>>> 1. press the windows logo key. The windows logo key is located on the 
>>> bottom
>>> left side of the keyboard, next to the left control key.
>>> 
>>> 2. Type in the words word to open up Microsoft word.   Once you do that,
>>> Window-Eyes will say your version number of office word, such as 
>>> 2010, 2013,
>>> or 2016.
>>> 
>>> 3. After typing in the words word, press enter to open up Microsoft 
>>> office
>>> word 2010.
>>> 
>>> I would also suggest that the manual be re-written in an easier to
>>> understand language. I have read the manual and to me it doesn't 
>>> sound like
>>> it is written in an easier to understand language for some people.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>> Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:15 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Who's going to take over the tutorials now that Mark is gone?
>>> 
>>> Hello, who's going to take over the tutorials now that Mark is gone? 
>>> .would
>>> anybody know?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Charlie Short
>>> 
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