And how about the following!  To me this means the end of Window-Eyes
It is true that this former AI Squared dealer and several others has been kicked to the curb by the new owners like so much trash after years of faithful service.


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-----Original Message----- From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:32 AM
To: Kenny Peyatt jr. ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

If you think those voices are free to use, go back and look at the price of
Jaws, and then the price of update plans.

-----Original Message----- From: Kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:18 PM
To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

That could be true too, what would be neat, is if VFO made it where all
the vocalizer voices are free to use with window-eyes like they are with
jaws.

Kenny Peyatt jr.


On 11/30/2016 9:02 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:
All the people in the know thought Hillary was to be the President, but not so. Might be the same with Window Eyes, everyone thinks it is dead, but no one knows.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk
   To: 'Sky Mundell' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
   Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:40 PM
   Subject: RE: Window-Eyes is Dead!


There are people who do know: they are the various decision makers who are setting the direction for all the companies in the group. They are just not telling the paying customers.

   Vaughan.


   -----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
   Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2016 2:25 p.m.
   To: 'Tony C'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Pamela Dominguez'
   Subject: RE: Window-Eyes is Dead!

Well nobody knows for sure if its truly dead or not. Its all just speculation.

   -----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
   Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 3:43 PM
   To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

I guess the Jaws people will be going crazy now because they wiped out window eyes. Even if it hurts the blind community as a whole.

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk
   Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 8:32 PM
   To: Stephen Clark ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

   I think there was something a few months ago.  Pam.

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Stephen Clark via Talk
   Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 8:22 PM
   To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!

Here's another thing. When was the last time there was an update to any of the Window-eyes apps? There used to be constant improvements/updates for the apps, but I can't even remember the last time I was prompted for an update. Has app development been discontinued?
   I hope not, but it sure seems that way.

   On 11/27/2016 2:51 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:
   > But: Window-eyes is gradually becoming less functional.  Clearly - a
   > screen reader is useless without interaction with an operating system
   > and third party software - but if development of window-eyes ceases,
   > the rest of software world still marches on.  And: there are long
   > standing bugs which now fall into legacy problems.  And: VFO and the
   > old GW Micro are organisationally very different in character.
   >
   > AiSquared' CEO is (or was) head of software development within VFO.
   > Because AI Squared was starting to bring some momentum back to
   > Window-Eyes, and had produced Fusion, I think he is well placed to
   > give us

   > some official goss.
   >
   >
   > Vaughan.
   >
   >
   >
   > Please telephone the Regional Disability and Health Team prior to
   > emailing

   > or faxing any new referrals.
   >
   >

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   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com
   > ] On

   > Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
   > Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2016 3:49 p.m.
   > To: wohlg...@gmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
   > Subject: RE: Window-Eyes is Dead!
   >
   > Hi Jim.  I totally agree with you.  Let's just focus on the
   > functionality of Window-Eyes.  You are right that all it does is
   > create fear, and uncertainty when this topic is discussed.
   >
   >
   >
   > From: Jim [mailto:wohlg...@gmail.com]
   > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 6:45 PM
   > To: Sky Mundell; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
   >
   >
   >
   > Hi there FOLKS!
   >
   > I recently enquired about purchasing an SMA for W.E.  At this time
> they are still selling them. I don't believe they could or would sell
   > something if the product was no longer going to be supported.  All of
   > this

> speculation is doing nothing but taking the discussion away from where
   > it should be, discussing the actual functionality of W.E.  So I say
> lets continue to use the product for as long as it's being produced as > well as supported and if or when we have to cross a bridge of changing
   > screen readers then perhaps we can pick up this discussion then..?
   > Catch Ya All Later! de
   >
   > <KF8LT><Jim>.
   >
   >
   >
   > On 26-Nov-16 21:20, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:
   >
   > Hi Peter.  Speaking of what you said about Window-Eyes being dead, I
> have contacted our local dealer who sells both JAWS and Window-Eyes to > discuss the situation of what was happening and he was shocked, and he
   > told me that he had the head from optolek Canada, as Canada does have
   > an optolek branch here, come and visit him, and the head told our
> dealer that they could sell both Optolek and Freedom products and that
   > he wouldn't be surprised if AI Squared ended up in the same channel.
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
   > Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk
   > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:49 PM
   > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
   > Subject: Window-Eyes is Dead!
   >
   > Hi all,
   >
   > When the founders and main staff of an organization leave, the
   > business dies a quick death.  There is absolutely no reason why f v o
   > needs to or wants to support a product that is given away for free.
   >
> I recommend all of us check out the Narrator on Windows 10 and NVDA as
   > an alternative screen reader for the future.
   >
   > Peter Duran
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