Please don't start moderating the list (infinity). On 12/21/2016 8:58 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote: > Please: don't start moderating the list. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Tony C via Talk > Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2016 2:43 p.m. > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > ys, For peat's sake. Please, let's get off the window eyes is dead trip. If > they are going to do away with it then that's what is going to happen. This > has been beat to death. Get on with your day if you have one and stop > cluttering up the list with spectulation. Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 6:01 PM > To: 'Bryan Peterson' ; 'Window-Eyes DiscussionList' > Subject: RE: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > I agree with Bryan's comments. Would also just like to add that it isn't > difficult for VFO to provide an up-to-date statement. > > Vaughan. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk > Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2016 12:24 p.m. > To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > Unfortunately the continued lack of an official answer is only going to lead > to more such speculation. As for JAWS being a very good program as someone > who used it for ten years before switching to WE I'm going to have to beg to > differ, but that's another topic. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:16 PM > To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > I agree! > > There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding this > topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I think that > someone is simply trying to start and continue totally unfounded rumors. I > really do wish this list would get back to discussing Window-Eyes and > Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and > spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it. PLEASE > folks! Have A Great Day! de > > <KF8LT><Jim>. > > > On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: >> I agree. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM >> To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >> >> until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's >> the thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my >> friends... >> >> >> >> >> On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: >>> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still >>> selling it? Pam. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk >>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM >>> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >>> >>> And lets add to that. How about several employees leaving Ai >>> Squared. The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling Window-Eyes. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: brice Mijares via Talk >>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM >>> To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >>> >>> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent >>> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does >>> this tell you? >>> >>> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote: >>>> Hi there FOLKS! >>>> >>>> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far >>>> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate >>>> future. I really cannot say as much for the long run. I called about >>>> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for >>>> the future as far as that goes. So Please do not start this BS >>>> about Window-Eyes being dead again. That, I can say I would GREATLY >>>> APPRECIATE!. <KF8LT><Jim Wohlgamuth> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote: >>>>> Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing. JAWS does a very >>>>> good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job >>>>> than Window Eyes. >>>>> >>>>> But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program, >>>>> and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and >>>>> greatest upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like >>>>> an Update, andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore >>>>> you spend an extra $200. >>>>> Then >>>>> they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has >>>>> trouble installing on more than one or two Systems. >>>>> >>>>> And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I >>>>> loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something >>>>> else in my system that caused the system lock up. >>>>> >>>>> I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves >>>>> and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear >>>>> Grandmother's eyes, as she awaits her funeral, if we only could >>>>> find her without someone taking our hand and leading us up to the >>>>> old girl. >>>>> >>>>> Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing to >>>>> do with the desperation of many who are Blind. >>>>> Here is something to think about- I am going to go out to the >>>>> Computer Store tonight, and Purchase a Quad Core 3.4 I5 System with >>>>> 16 GB of RAM, and a 750 GB Hard Drive, for $250. >>>>> >>>>> We have a store here called Re-PC that takes in used systems, tests >>>>> them and puts them up for sale. >>>>> So I can buy a used system for $250, and I think the Pro edition of >>>>> JAWS is over $1200, maybe someone here can correct this figure. >>>>> >>>>> When the Screen Reader costs four or almost five times as much as >>>>> the computer it will run upon, guess I have a problem with that. >>>>> >>>>> And I know JAWS is a Company that is to make a profit for the >>>>> owners, and making a healthy profit is something I have no problem >>>>> with a Company doing. But there is the Greed factor that tends to >>>>> raise its uglyhead, and that is when a Company will charge what >>>>> they believe the Market will bare. And with most program sales >>>>> getting paid for by our Government, the same government that will >>>>> pay $600 for a Toilet Seat, why not charge Uncle SAM $1200 for a >>>>> screen Reader program? After all, Uncle SAM is good for it, even >>>>> though few people who are Blind can afford it, with most living on >>>>> minimum wage jobs, or some level of Social Security. >>>>> >>>>> JAWS as a program, does many things right, and even better than >>>>> Window Eyes, in some cases. >>>>> >>>>> I just never liked their method of doing business, or how they >>>>> interacted with their customers. >>>>> >>>>> I stayed with GW Micro largely because they were a great group of >>>>> people to work and deal with when you needed to do so. From the >>>>> days of DOS to just before the purchasing of GW Micro by A I >>>>> Squared I felt their customer service and program support was very >>>>> very good. And there were times when the guys could not fix what >>>>> ever my issue was at the time. >>>>> But, they didn't just ignore my situation, or mock me for having a >>>>> problem. >>>>> >>>>> I almost always found Window Eyes to be a very reliable program, >>>>> and so when I did have those times when my system would freeze or >>>>> lock up, I was prone to think it was Internet Exploder, or some >>>>> other program, including Windows Itself to be the culprit before I >>>>> considered >> the >>>>> Screen Reader. That is the very high level of reliability I came to >>>>> expect from GW Micro, because that is what they produced for years. >>>>> >>>>> Today, I do not have the same degree of Faith in those who run GW >>>>> Micro. >>>>> And I do not know if this is only because some of the old staff are >>>>> now gone, and those replacing them are not quite as good, or if >>>>> what I sense is the hand of the Parent Company influencing how >>>>> those who still work at GW Micro do their jobs. And now that A I >>>>> Squared has been swallowed by the Parent Company of JAWS, there is >>>>> even a greater distance theTop >>>>> decision makers have from the every day user of Window Eyes. So it >>>>> takes longer and longer to fix problems, or to make alterations to >>>>> Window Eyes etc. >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I need a powerful Screen Reader. I use NVDA on >>>>> occasion, but it is not powerful enough to do everything I need >>>>> from a Screen Reader. There may come a Day when I must buy my own >>>>> copy of JAWS. I won't like it, but if they are the only Game in >>>>> town, then >> what choice >>>>> do I have? 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