I agree. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's the thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my friends... On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: > Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still > selling it? Pam. > > -----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM > To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > And lets add to that. How about several employees leaving Ai > Squared. The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling Window-Eyes. > > -----Original Message----- From: brice Mijares via Talk > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM > To: [email protected] ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent > support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does > this tell you? > > On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote: >> Hi there FOLKS! >> >> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far >> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate >> future. I really cannot say as much for the long run. I called about >> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for >> the future as far as that goes. So Please do not start this BS about >> Window-Eyes being dead again. That, I can say I would GREATLY >> APPRECIATE!. <KF8LT><Jim Wohlgamuth> >> >> >> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote: >>> Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing. JAWS does a very >>> good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job >>> than Window Eyes. >>> >>> But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program, >>> and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and greatest >>> upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an Update, >>> andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore you spend >>> an extra $200. >>> Then >>> they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has >>> trouble installing on more than one or two Systems. >>> >>> And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I >>> loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something >>> else in my system that caused the system lock up. >>> >>> I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves >>> and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear >>> Grandmother's eyes, as she awaits her funeral, if we only could find >>> her without someone taking our hand and leading us up to the old girl. >>> >>> Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing to >>> do with the desperation of many who are Blind. >>> Here is something to think about- >>> I am going to go out to the Computer Store tonight, and Purchase a >>> Quad Core 3.4 I5 System with 16 GB of RAM, and a 750 GB Hard Drive, >>> for $250. >>> >>> We have a store here called Re-PC that takes in used systems, tests >>> them and puts them up for sale. >>> So I can buy a used system for $250, and I think the Pro edition of >>> JAWS is over $1200, maybe someone here can correct this figure. >>> >>> When the Screen Reader costs four or almost five times as much as >>> the computer it will run upon, guess I have a problem with that. >>> >>> And I know JAWS is a Company that is to make a profit for the >>> owners, and making a healthy profit is something I have no problem >>> with a Company doing. But there is the Greed factor that tends to >>> raise its uglyhead, and that is when a Company will charge what they >>> believe the Market will bare. And with most program sales getting >>> paid for by our Government, the same government that will pay $600 >>> for a Toilet Seat, why not charge Uncle SAM $1200 for a screen >>> Reader program? After all, Uncle SAM is good for it, even though few >>> people who are Blind can afford it, with most living on minimum wage >>> jobs, or some level of Social Security. >>> >>> JAWS as a program, does many things right, and even better than >>> Window Eyes, in some cases. >>> >>> I just never liked their method of doing business, or how they >>> interacted with their customers. >>> >>> I stayed with GW Micro largely because they were a great group of >>> people to work and deal with when you needed to do so. From the >>> days of DOS to just before the purchasing of GW Micro by A I Squared >>> I felt their customer service and program support was very very >>> good. And there were times when the guys could not fix what ever my >>> issue was at the time. >>> But, they didn't just ignore my situation, or mock me for having a >>> problem. >>> >>> I almost always found Window Eyes to be a very reliable program, and >>> so when I did have those times when my system would freeze or lock >>> up, I was prone to think it was Internet Exploder, or some other >>> program, including Windows Itself to be the culprit before I considered the >>> Screen Reader. That is the very high level of reliability I came to >>> expect from GW Micro, because that is what they produced for years. >>> >>> Today, I do not have the same degree of Faith in those who run GW >>> Micro. >>> And I do not know if this is only because some of the old staff are >>> now gone, and those replacing them are not quite as good, or if what >>> I sense is the hand of the Parent Company influencing how those who >>> still work at GW Micro do their jobs. And now that A I Squared has >>> been swallowed by the Parent Company of JAWS, there is even a >>> greater distance theTop >>> decision makers have from the every day user of Window Eyes. So it >>> takes longer and longer to fix problems, or to make alterations to >>> Window Eyes etc. >>> >>> Personally, I need a powerful Screen Reader. I use NVDA on >>> occasion, but it is not powerful enough to do everything I need from >>> a Screen Reader. There may come a Day when I must buy my own copy >>> of JAWS. I won't like it, but if they are the only Game in town, then what choice >>> do I have? I will reluctantly make my purchase. >>> >>> Grumpy Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gma il.com. >>> >>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bricemijares%4 0att.net. >> >> >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40opton line.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7924 / Virus Database: 4739/13610 - Release Date: > 12/18/16 > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40v erizon.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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