Guess i will try to investigate these.  Never understood what they were for and 
when people talk about them, I feel like one of the Peanuts kids.  Everything 
sounds like: "wha, wah wah, wah."  No matter how long a use computers, I'm 
still a dummy.

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On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 00:52:21 -0500
Tom Kingston via Talk <[email protected]> wrote:

> Pam,
> 
> User windows are a very powerful feature that are really more or less 
> scripting in another form. Unfortunately everyone ignored them because they 
> weren't called scripting.
> 
> You can create standard windows relative to screen coordinates or floating 
> windows that automatically adjust their coordinates based on several 
> different things. You can make them speak with a hot key or make them speak 
> automatically or make them silent. You can tie them to specific colors, have 
> them watch for highlighting, or not, and on and on.
> 
> Then there are hyperactive windows. These monitor the defined area in many 
> different ways and can react in many different ways, e.g. say something, 
> speak a window, execute a hot key, load a set file, and on and on.
> 
> I remember how everyone was so excited when scripting was introduced. I only 
> shook my head thinking we had a lot of that power from the beginning through 
> these windows. It was amazing how some jumped on scripting while prior to its 
> introduction everyone seemed to scream and run every time I mentioned user 
> windows.
> 
> You won't even see them in the control panel unless "Show advanced options" 
> is checked under the Help menu.
> 
> Regards,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 11/28/2016 8:51 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
> > Okay, at the risk of sounding stupid:  what are these user windows you
> > are talking about?  pam.
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Dave via Talk
> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:10 PM
> > To: [email protected] ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
> >
> > I Miss a big big feature  that is no longer in the version 9.X of Window
> > eyes.  I use those User Windows, in a couple of Set Files I've created
> > for a couple of programs I use.  Without those User Windows, Window Eyes
> > 9.x does not give me the same abilities as Window Eyes 8.X This for the
> > way I use Window Eyes is going backwards.
> >
> > This next one is a personal preference, but the way version 9.X Copies
> > Text on the Internet is not to my liking.    It is not Windows Standard.
> > I find the New way to copy text a bit Funky, and I tend to get more text
> > than I want.
> >
> >
> > I dislike other minor issues in Version 9.X, and so it isn't a matter of
> > going backwards, but more of a consistency issue.
> >
> > I suspect the problem I occasionally have is a Script problem, and not
> > so much a Window Eyes problem.  From time to time, I have major problems
> > using Gold Wave 6 in Windows 10.
> >
> > I no longer have the ability to Read to End when reading Email in Becky.
> >
> > When in File Explorer, I cannot use the Send To feature because either
> > the Script is not reading what Drives I have available, or Windows 10 is
> > not displaying the Drives.
> >
> >> From time to time, the drives are read by Window Eyes, but only one time.
> > If I want to send another file, then the Drives no longer are shown, or
> > read by Window Eyes 9.5.
> >
> > This last problem started after downloading the Anniversary Edition of
> > Windows 10.
> >
> > These last three issues are probably Script issues.  Either they did not
> > load correctly, or once loaded, failed to work properly.  But, if there
> > is no more development on Window Eyes, it is small stuff like this that
> > never will be fixed. And it is little stuff like this that will force me
> > to buy JAWS or some other Screen Reader.
> >
> > I find the operation of the Mouse to be very different in 9.X than I did
> > in 8.X.  this too has more to do with consistency, because there are
> > times I can use the Mouse, but too much of the time, it doesn't work or
> > read as well as it did in 8.X.
> >
> > I also had a Big disappointment, and a Complaint about the Bugginess of
> > the 9.0, 9.1,9.2, 9.3 etc.    In my opinion, none of these editions were
> > quite ready for paying customers.   Not until 9.4 and 9.5 did I feel
> > that Window Eyes 9 had gotten reliable enough to be sold to the general
> > public and to existing Customers.
> >
> > I could very well be wrong, but I thought the  decision to ship 9.0 to
> > the Market was a  choice made by the drastic need for Money.
> >
> > This is taking advantage of your Customers, and while a lot of Software
> > Companies do this, it doesn't make it Right, or enjoyable for those of
> > us who buy upgrades.
> >
> > If I took more time, I could probably come up with a few more items, but
> > I have made my point.
> >
> > Grumpy Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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