I agree with much of what you say Brian. At work: Outlook would freeze on at least three occasions during the working day whilst running Window-eyes. Does not happen now that I am running JFW. I think that, regardless of screen readers, Internet Explorer is just beoming a lemon.
In New Zealand: I never had any Window-eyes support; got something of a deal whereby I could purchase over the phone, but that is not the way to transact business securely in an international market anymore. Window-Eyes stays on my home pc, but notice that I'm not relying on it that much. Would take something fantastic to be offered with a new release before I would purchase. Vaughan. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Moore via Talk Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2017 2:38 a.m. To: [email protected]; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: making the switch Hi Jim. the really big thing was really frequent silence when web browsers would get stuck. This also happened a lot with outlook which I am forced to use at work. We had the best calendar interface I have still ever seen for outlook, particularly when you work in a large org like I do and need to use it frequently but when I closed outlook, it would often go silent and I would have to fire up nvda to recover. Also, the lack of mouse key review in windows 8.1 and 10 made screen review things quite difficult. I downloaded the free version of 9.5.4 since my licensed copy is only 9.1 and it does seem a little better. I would probably pay the 50 bucks to upgrade it but not when I have to wait for some dealer to buy it, put a mark up on it and then allow me to download it at some later date. Used to be able to order online or call up gwmicro and they would take my credit card number on the phone and we would be good but no longer. I used to work at a local dealer and was their we expert and pushed it whenever I could but it doesn't seem quite as good to me anymore. Brian. On 04/04/2017 10:16 AM, Jim wrote: > > Brian, Like you I have been a long-time user of WE, unlike you > though, I really do not seem to be experiencing the difficulties with > WE. I would be interested in knowing just what it is that WE no > longer does efficiently. I have for the most part found each > subsequent release of WE to be considerably improved. Oh, there are a > few things that I would like to see it do, but those things I cannot > do with NVDA or Narator either. Just curious as to your issues with WE? > > THANKS and Have A Good 1! de > <KF8lT><Jim>. > On 04-Apr-17 10:00, Brian Moore via Talk wrote: >> Hi. I am someone who started using the MAC several years ago. While >> I still use it once in a while, I don't love the experience of web >> browsing and working with email which is something I do a lot of >> everyday. I have gone back to a pc. In my opinion, we has decreased >> in performance since version 7. While there have been some steps >> forward certainly, there have also been a lot more frequent lock ups >> and things which just won't read. At this point, I have uninstalled >> it from all but one of my machines and use NVDA pretty much all the >> time. Sure, it was a learning curve and there are still some things >> I would argue that we does far better but nvda for me is very very >> stable and doesn't lock up or crash nearly as much as we was doing. >> I have not even tried it on windows 10. >> >> >> Also, when the aisquared thing happened and I couldn't order my >> upgrade online anymore because I am in Canada so have to wait for >> some third party to order it and send it to me, it just wasn't worth >> the head ache anymore.. >> >> >> I have owned this product since version 3 and was a very happy >> customer but 9.1 will be the last version I own. >> >> >> Brian. >> >> >> On 04/04/2017 9:45 AM, Dave via Talk wrote: >>> Well before you Unsubscribe from this list, once you have an Apple Mac, >>> and you've had it for a couple of months, let us know what you think? >>> >>> And my request is not coming from a, Wait till you find out how >>> miserable the Mac is, attitude. Not hardly. Am very interested in >>> how good the Mac actually is, and just how accessible that system >>> can be. >>> >>> Like Narrator, at first glance it seems to work well enough, it speaks >>> things well, and even things the other two Screen Readers do not. >>> And >>> yet, Narrator is limited it what it can do, and what it can read. I >>> have gotten the impression that All Screen Readers have this >>> characteristic, but for some Readers, those Gaps in what is not read >>> are >>> smaller. >>> >>> In our imperfect world of Computer Access, most of us want as much >>> access as possible. Less is not a Good thing, otherwise we would >>> all be >>> seriously looking at Narrator. >>> >>> And of course, everyone's Need for a Computer varies. Some use it to >>> red and write Emails and a letter to Grandma once in a while. And >>> others still, use their computer all day long, and quite intensely, >>> which >>> puts not only the Operating System through a Vigorous Work Out, but the >>> Screen Reader has to attempt to read everything and Keep up with the >>> user who is pushing everything on the system to the breaking point. >>> >>> So, after you've had the Mac system for a while, post your thoughts, >>> and >>> what you actually need the system to do for you. >>> >>> Grumpy Dave >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/admin%40screenreview.org. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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