Also Dell's not too bad. I have a Latitude E6530, and no problem with
the FN key.--Matthew Chao
On 4/12/2017 1:53 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote:
You might look at some Acer models.
Mine has the applications key, and, the mouse pad is easily disabled by
pressing fn plus f7. I may have had to go into BIOS and turn the fn key off,
but, I can't remember.
-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: gun shy about new laptop
I might think of that Chris. My last computer was a Toshiba. I just saw a
news story that Toshiba may no longer be able to be a going concern, but
they were working to sell of f and structure to stay viable. I have never
really considered the refurbished, but that may be a good option for me.
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Subject: Re: gun shy about new laptop
Hi,
A couple years ago I purchased a Toshiba.
There were some thigs i liked.
1. Toshiba had a utility where I went in and turned off the function key
myself.
2. It has the 10 key number pad.
3. it has the applications key.
Here is the link, you can get it refurbished for about $350.00 It has
windows 8.1 on it but you should be able to install Windows 10.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00FOXJ9NM/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF
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-------- Original Message --------
From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, Apr 12, 2017 12:14 PM EST
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Subject: gun shy about new laptop
Late last summer I got a new HP laptop. The primary thing that drew me to
it in the store was the keyboard layout of having the 10-key number pad on
the right, yet only being a 15 inch screen. What I did not realize until
after I got it home and paid money for a tech to come help me set it up was
two things. First, it does not have the application key, which I have
learned to get around with the Shift F10 keystroke.
The bigger problem was the whole thing we've talked about with now having to
push the FN key in order to get the function keys to work the way I want.
(I had not found someone who was comfortable going into the bios to help me
see about changing this.) The biggest problem Is that this function key
thing also applies to the Insert key, as it is right next to the F12 key.
I've gotten pretty good at using the caps lock key instead, but this
requires some real finger gymnastics to activate certain Window Eyes
command. Aside from all this, there is also some we
ird clicking thing that the keyboard occasionally does that is annoying.
All this to say, it's not been a great experience and had I not invested in
paying a tech to set up the computer for me, I probably would have quickly
returned it to Costco for a refund or exchange.
So, I'm in a situation now where I may be giving this laptop to my sighted
husband and getting a new one, but I'm gun-shy about how not to repeat this
problem in my laptop selection. I am not a heavy computer user at home, so
did not want to spend much money, although I'm not looking for the cheapest
netbook thing either. I mainly looked at Best Buy and Costco, because I
wanted to get my hands on the keyboard and feel the layout. I like that
Costco doubles the manufacturer's warranty and provides great, free help
desk support for the computers purchased there.
Any advice from those of you having purchased computers lately on how to
navigate this keyboard dilemma, especially if buying one online? I'd really
like to stay in the $500 range, if possible.
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