I am typing this on a 7-year-old Toshiba laptop that cost about $700 at the time. Had to have it repaired once when I messed up the touch strip above the function keys. The technology and features keep changing, so I'm not sure you can generalize about brands very much. I wouldn't get the smallest, thinnest and lightest laptop I could. I probably wouldn't get one designed for gaming, either, which is largley what they talk about in PC World, since luxury computers pay the bills for the subscription magazines like that. I was fortunate to go into a Best Buy store and work with a salesman for more than a half hour on a Saturday morning, starting up Narrator on their demos and seeing how responsive the speech was, what sort of keyboard the laptop had, how many ports and of what type, etc.


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-----Original Message----- From: Michael Fridey via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:48 AM
To: Van Lant, Robin ; window eyes help list
Subject: Re: gun shy about new laptop


I agree i brought a new tosheba notebook couple years back and after a week.
Each time i booted it up the sound was disabled i took it back twice to the store to be fixed. After twice of no sound at all i took it back and payed more for a dell notebook and never had problems with the dell.
Cheers Michael.
On 14 Apr 2017, at 1:41 am, Van Lant, Robin via Talk <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm also going to toss in that my Toshiba lasted just two years that completely died. My husband's Toshiba is maybe 4 years old and the keyboard now won't work correctly -- something about the keyboard drivers not being compatible with the latest Windows updates. I'm a bit nervous about the quality of Toshiba laptops. Then again, a computer tech friend of mine says most laptops for personal use are not built to last more than a few years. I miss having my desktops that easily lasted. 7-8 years or longer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jo Taliaferro via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 3:53 PM
To: Chris G; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: gun shy about new laptop

Hello, on a similar note, I have been reading up on to Sheba and some of the losses that have occurred because of various things like bad management, etc. How risky is it now, to buy a to Shiba computer for business purposes question does anyone have a clue after hearing Jonathan Moseman's podcast in November 2016 question thank you, I have liked to Shiba in the past but wonder if I couldn't get a business computer and still have the portability that I like? Thank you so much.

Jo Taliaferro

On Apr 12, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Chris G via Talk <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,
A couple years ago I purchased a Toshiba.
There were some thigs i liked.
1. Toshiba had a utility where I went in and turned off the function key myself.
2.  It has the 10 key number pad.
3.  it has the applications key.
Here is the link, you can get it refurbished for about $350.00 It has windows 8.1 on it but you should be able to install Windows 10.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00FOXJ9NM/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all




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-------- Original Message --------
From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, Apr 12, 2017 12:14 PM EST
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: gun shy about new laptop

Late last summer I got a new HP laptop. The primary thing that drew me to it in the store was the keyboard layout of having the 10-key number pad on the right, yet only being a 15 inch screen. What I did not realize until after I got it home and paid money for a tech to come help me set it up was two things. First, it does not have the application key, which I have learned to get around with the Shift F10 keystroke. The bigger problem was the whole thing we've talked about with now having to push the FN key in order to get the function keys to work the way I want. (I had not found someone who was comfortable going into the bios to help me see about changing this.) The biggest problem Is that this function key thing also applies to the Insert key, as it is right next to the F12 key. I've gotten pretty good at using the caps lock key instead, but this requires some real finger gymnastics to activate certain Window Eyes command. Aside from all this, there is also some w
e
ird clicking thing that the keyboard occasionally does that is annoying. All this to say, it's not been a great experience and had I not invested in paying a tech to set up the computer for me, I probably would have quickly returned it to Costco for a refund or exchange.

So, I'm in a situation now where I may be giving this laptop to my sighted husband and getting a new one, but I'm gun-shy about how not to repeat this problem in my laptop selection. I am not a heavy computer user at home, so did not want to spend much money, although I'm not looking for the cheapest netbook thing either. I mainly looked at Best Buy and Costco, because I wanted to get my hands on the keyboard and feel the layout. I like that Costco doubles the manufacturer's warranty and provides great, free help desk support for the computers purchased there.

Any advice from those of you having purchased computers lately on how to navigate this keyboard dilemma, especially if buying one online? I'd really like to stay in the $500 range, if possible.

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