I'm afraid you're most likely right. NVDA is by no means my favorite screen reader but I've had to use it with MSWord since getting Windows 10 so I may as well get used to using it for other things. I absolutely despise JAWS and so I refuse to go back to it, so that means NVDA.

-----Original Message----- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 4:30 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

            I suspect certain people at VFO feel the exact same way
about Window-eyes.

Unfortunately, Window-eyes has always been kind of seen as the underdog,
whereas JAWS is the more popular option.  The most popular doesn't
always mean better, but when you're dealing with money, that's what
happens.  So unfortunately, it's looking more and more         like JAWS
will win.  I hope I am wrong.




On 5/8/2017 6:20 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
Yes, I know this.


-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 6:06 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; Vaughan Dodd <vaughan.dodd...@msd.govt.nz>
Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

Magic's death is coming and it's deserved. That software is a joke. Vfo selling we sma's means nothing. Of course they'll take your money. You're not gonna get what you paid for but it's your money. Most likely sma holders will get discounted jfw offered. I've never seen so many people determined to bury they heads in the sand. We's time is up y'all. You can use we until your pc turns to dust but the reality is that there won't be any future improvements. As new windows stuff comes out, we will become unusable.


"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On May 8, 2017 3:22 PM, "Vaughan Dodd via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:

Yes: but have they developed Magic?

Vaughan.



-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt.nz@lists.
window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2017 7:50 a.m.
To: aist...@ameritech.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

Since obtaining ZoomText, they haven't scrapped Magic.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Adaptive Information Systems Inc. via Talk
   To: 'Peter Duran' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
   Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 3:14 PM
   Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!


   Hi Peter,

   Why not two screen readers from VFO.

Many other companies in the real world have more than one brand of products in their offerings, why not Window-eyes which is far better than the other
   brand VFO sells.

Also if Window-eyes is dead like so many speculate, VFO had no issues in selling me a Window-eyes SMA a month ago for $199.00 for the next two major
   upgrades!

Narrator has a long way to go to be a viable screen reader and do we want to be relying on Narrator for Windows, like those poor folks who have MAC and
   appple products having only one choice, Voice over!

NVDA is coming along, but it has a way to go to be equal to Window-eyes.

   I am successfully using Window-eyes 9.1 with XP Pro.
YOU are probably laughing, but MY company did over $500,000.00 using XP pro, Window-eyes 9.1, AVG 2 year protection software, Firefox for my browser, Office 2003 with the ms converter patch to access office 2007 and up files, and good old outlook express and outlook as email clients with little or no
   issues!

I also have over 6 computers with windows 7 pro with the latest Window-eyes
   9.54 with little issues.

I wil go to Dolphin screen reader before I am stuck with no Window-eyes and
   have NVDA as a backup screen reader.

   Who knows, maybe if the alternative facts are true about the end of
Window-eyes, maybe some other adaptive company wil take it over and keep it
   alive, Like HumanWare.

So I wil expect a refund from VFO if Window-eyes does not come out with any major upgrades and use my refund to purchase Dolphin screen reader software
   instead.

   Regards,
   Roger Behm




   Adaptive Information Systems Inc.
We Make Technology Accessible to the vision Impaired and Reading Disabled

   Roger A. Behm, President
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   Janesville WI 53545-1388
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   -----Original Message-----
   From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech.net@lists.window-
eyes.com]
   On Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk
   Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 12:58 PM
   To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
   Subject: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

It always amazes me when smart folks (like on this list) prefer a fanticy
   instead of reality.  There is absolutely no reason for Window-Eyes to
   continue and compete with JFW.  Why would they do that?

   There are 3 options to check out: Narrator on Windows 10, NVDA, and
   VoiceOver. So, get real and get to work.

I suppose those of you who believe that Window-Eyes will stay around also believe that the health care bill that passed the House last week will cover everybody as promised by Trump instead of leaving 24 million folks without
   any health care.

   Peter Duran

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