Oh I never said I didn't like it. It's just not my favorite. Things just don't seem as simple to do as they have been with WE. I also can't seem to get Eloquence to work with it properly. It's not my favorite voice in terms of quality but its response time is still just about the quickest I've experienced.

-----Original Message----- From: Darrell Bowles
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 4:51 PM
To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

Why do you not like NVDA?


-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 6:40 PM
To: Chris Skarstad <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

I'm afraid you're most likely right. NVDA is by no means my favorite screen reader but I've had to use it with MSWord since getting Windows 10 so I may as well get used to using it for other things. I absolutely despise JAWS and so I refuse to go back to it, so that means NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 4:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

I suspect certain people at VFO feel the exact same way about Window-eyes.

Unfortunately, Window-eyes has always been kind of seen as the underdog, whereas JAWS is the more popular option. The most popular doesn't always mean better, but when you're dealing with money, that's what
happens.  So unfortunately, it's looking more and more         like JAWS
will win.  I hope I am wrong.




On 5/8/2017 6:20 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
Yes, I know this.


-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 6:06 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>; Vaughan
Dodd <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

Magic's death is coming and it's deserved. That software is a joke.
Vfo selling we sma's means nothing. Of course they'll take your money.
You're not gonna get what you paid for but it's your money. Most
likely sma holders will get discounted jfw offered. I've never seen so
many people determined to bury they heads in the sand. We's time is up
y'all. You can use we until your pc turns to dust but the reality is
that there won't be any future improvements. As new windows stuff
comes out, we will become unusable.


"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never
promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls
Of Jericho

Reeva

On May 8, 2017 3:22 PM, "Vaughan Dodd via Talk"
<[email protected]>
wrote:

Yes: but have they developed Magic?

Vaughan.



-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt.nz@lists.
window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2017 7:50 a.m.
To: [email protected]; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

Since obtaining ZoomText, they haven't scrapped Magic.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Adaptive Information Systems Inc. via Talk
   To: 'Peter Duran' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
   Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 3:14 PM
   Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!


   Hi Peter,

   Why not two screen readers from VFO.

   Many other companies in the real world have more than one brand of
products
   in their offerings,  why not Window-eyes which is far better than
the other
   brand VFO sells.

   Also if Window-eyes is dead like so many speculate, VFO had no
issues in
   selling me a Window-eyes SMA a month ago for $199.00 for the next
two major
   upgrades!

   Narrator has a long way to go to be a viable screen reader and do
we want to
   be relying on Narrator for Windows, like those poor folks who have
MAC and
   appple products having only one choice, Voice over!

   NVDA is coming along, but it has a way to go to be equal to
Window-eyes.

   I am successfully using Window-eyes 9.1 with XP Pro.
   YOU are probably laughing, but MY company did over $500,000.00
using XP pro,
   Window-eyes 9.1, AVG 2 year protection software,  Firefox for my
browser,
   Office 2003 with the ms converter patch to access office 2007 and
up files,
   and good old outlook express and outlook as email clients with
little or no
   issues!

   I also have over 6 computers with windows 7 pro with  the latest
Window-eyes
   9.54 with little issues.

   I wil go to Dolphin screen reader before I am stuck with no
Window-eyes and
   have NVDA as a backup screen reader.

   Who knows, maybe if the alternative facts are true about the end of
   Window-eyes, maybe some other adaptive company wil take it over and
keep it
   alive, Like HumanWare.

   So I wil expect a refund from VFO if Window-eyes does not come out
with any
   major upgrades and use my refund to purchase Dolphin screen reader
software
   instead.

   Regards,
   Roger Behm




   Adaptive Information Systems Inc.
   We Make Technology Accessible to the vision Impaired and Reading
Disabled

   Roger A. Behm, President
   1611 Clover Lane
   Janesville WI 53545-1388
   Fax: 608-758-7898
   Voice: 608-758-0933
   Email: [email protected]
   Web Page: www.adaptiveinformation.org


   -----Original Message-----
   From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]
eyes.com]
   On Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk
   Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 12:58 PM
   To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
   Subject: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

   It always amazes me when smart folks (like on this list) prefer a
fanticy
   instead of reality.  There is absolutely no reason for Window-Eyes to
   continue and compete with JFW.  Why would they do that?

   There are 3 options to check out: Narrator on Windows 10, NVDA, and
   VoiceOver. So, get real and get to work.

   I suppose those of you who believe that Window-Eyes will stay
around also
   believe that the health care bill that passed the House last week
will cover
   everybody as promised by Trump instead of leaving 24 million folks
without
   any health care.

   Peter Duran

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