Simplicity is in the eye of the beholder. We all need different things. I am a computer engineer, so I need access to some of the more advanced aspects of the screen reader to use my various software development tools. Screen readers are there to help all of us. And that means having lots of features that some of us will use and that others will not.
Best, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com 619-750-9431 (M) | 858-777-3311 (F) My WebSite | Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+juanhernandez98=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:01 AM To: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration I don't like that either if this what does happen. I use outlook 2013 at work part of office 365 and at home I still use Eudora 7.1.9 for my client e-mail and I have also outlook set up as I have also office 365 at home. Don't you feel that screne readers should be made as simple as possible? -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:40 AM To: Steve Nutt <st...@comproom.co.uk>; 'Dennis Long' <dennisl1...@gmail.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration I just wished all of the graphics were labeled in the windows live mail app. When I arrow up and down in the windows live maill app in jaws, it won’t say things like, replied, forwarded, read etc. It does in window eyes. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:21 AM To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Hi, It really depends on what you want to do. NVDA is vastly better on the web than JAWS and I believe always will be. But not configurable enough. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 15 May 2017 17:45 To: 'Darrell Bowles' <dgbow...@msn.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Got news for one or two user won't make a difference. You get what you pay for or don't pay for. NVDA is nowhere as good as Jaws! -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:38 PM To: aist...@ameritech.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration If you really want to send a message to VFO, either use narrator, Supernova, or donate to NVDA! -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Adaptive Information Systems Inc. via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:35 PM To: 'Doug Geoffray' <dgeoff...@vfogroup.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Hi Doug, Is there any chance another company could buy window-eyes and keep it developing in to the great screen reader it is now? What a crying shame we blind screen reader folks only have one choice here in the U.S. for screen readers!! So I am again looking at Dolphin screen reader, since I use to have it back with version 3.5 and also learning better how to use NVDA, though NVDA has a good way to go to equal Window-eyes! Regards, Roger Behm Adaptive Information Systems Inc. We Make Technology Accessible to the vision Impaired and Reading Disabled Roger A. Behm, President 1611 Clover Lane Janesville WI 53545-1388 Fax: 608-758-7898 Voice: 608-758-0933 Email: aist...@ameritech.net Web Page: www.adaptiveinformation.org -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:48 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Window-Eyes will continue to run as it always has. Even if you migrate you can continue to have Window-Eyes installed and switch back and forth as you need to. The only thing with Window-Eyes is it will no longer be upgraded. So 9.5.4 is the last version. Regards, Doug -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:28 AM To: Aaron Smith <ajsm...@vfogroup.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Need clarity on one thing. As an current paid user of WE, if we convert to JAWS, does that mean we no longer can use WE? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Smith via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> To: <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:14 AM Subject: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Thank you for being a valued member of the GW Micro and Window-Eyes family. We regret to announce that sales of Window-Eyes have ended in the United States and Canada. Users outside of the United States and Canada should contact their local distributor for options. We are committed to our customers and will honor existing product purchases and software maintenance agreements, and we will continue to provide technical support to end users that have purchased Window-Eyes or a support package. All users who are currently using Window-Eyes can continue to use the software indefinitely; however, as the Windows(r) operating system and/or applications change over time, Window-Eyes may not function adequately for your needs. We understand how important a screen reader is to you and are offering JAWS(r) for Windows 18 as a replacement. We are committed to providing a smooth transition and will honor existing Window-Eyes product purchases and software maintenance agreements (SMA), as follows. End users that paid for and are current with Window-Eyes 9.x will be converted to JAWS 18 at no charge. If you are using an earlier version of Window-Eyes, you can purchase an upgrade to JAWS 18. If you are using the free version of Window-Eyes you can continue to use it. While there is not an upgrade path from the free version, if you are interested in purchasing JAWS, please contact our sales team at 800-444-4443. Existing Window-Eyes SMAs will be rolled into the JAWS SMA program for end users that migrate to JAWS. Learn more about the migration options and pricing by visiting http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate. To make this process as easy as possible, we ask you to complete a simple web form that will go directly to our sales team, who will then contact you with an authorization code for JAWS 18, or request additional information if necessary. Requests for upgrades must be submitted at http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrateform or by phone at 800-444-4443 by July 31, 2017. Note, the free Window-Eyes Offer for Users of Microsoft Office version is not part of the conversion program. 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