And there is always the Apple Mac option with its free screen reader! Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 0777 315 8181
> On 16 May 2017, at 8:14 pm, Joseph Norton via Talk > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > While the main competitor of JFW may be gone, others are emerging. > > You’ve still got choice. It may not be the choice you would like to make, > but, the playing field is changing. > > Neither NVDA, or System Access was around when Window-Eyes and JFW came out. > Back then, you had Slimware Window Bridge and ASAW from MicroTalk (although > that one didn’t last as long). Too, wasn’t there Artic Win Vision, though > that may have only been for Windows 3.1. Anyway, Window-Eyes and JFW were > the major players from that era that stayed around the longest. > > Now, there’s still NVDA, System Access, and SuperNova. SuperNova needs to > play catch-up, a little, but, it is an option. They seem willing to > accommodate users who want to migrate to their products, as they do provide > alternate keyboard layouts. Narrator is maturing, and may be a force to be > reckoned with. > > So, no monopoly here, yet. Just business. > > The same thing happened in the Long Distance and local phone markets. > > The AT field is no different, whether we like it or not. > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Darrell Bowles via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:03 PM > To: Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: whole migrating situation > > Then we have a monopoly, where there is only one option. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Dennis Long via Talk >> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: >> >> I agree either accept the offer or don't. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:30 PM >> To: Kurlander Richard (750000); Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: FW: whole migrating situation >> >> With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have >> realized from participating on this list, is the variety of needs and >> experiences WE users have. So while you and I don't use mouse keys (for >> example), others do. I probably use %2 of WE's functionality, so probably >> any screen reader I use will work for my needs or wants, but others need far >> more than I do. >> >> No one is forcing you to purchase anything, but likely, you will have to >> adapt to new technology whether that technology is adaptive or commercial >> (meaning for the sighted public as well). >> >>> On 5/16/2017 10:13 AM, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk wrote: >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kurlander Richard (750000) >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:50 AM >>> To: 'talk-l...@window-eyes.com' <talk-l...@window-eyes.com> >>> Subject: whole migrating situation >>> >>> As a window-eyes user since 1997 I feel that people who used and are >>> using window-eyes were sold down the river and in the end Doug and >>> Aaron and all of gw micro actually sold us out. I feel that since vfo >>> bought all these other companies that they should tried to make the >>> screen readers as close to each other as possible, not having to have >>> to learn a new screen reader. I think that when you use screen readers >>> you should only have to use arrow keys, tab keys, application keys not >>> use mouse keys, numpad keys since it is a pain in the neck to keep >>> switching and holding down keys. Vfo could have had a window-eyes >>> keyboard layout and the biggest problem also is that Microsoft wants >>> everyone to use Microsoft edge and not ie firefox or chrome any more. >>> I am sick and tired of tech people telling you to read a manuel or >>> listen to pod casts. I am a blind person who works and do you think I >>> have the time or energy to have to listen to the editorals? Where are >>> the cheat sheets that >> c >>> an be sent out? I am not a computer geek or do I want to be a geek. All >> screne readers should be made simple not all the intricate stuff that you >> have to do and that is where vfo should try to work with Microsoft as well >> as all screne readers should work with Microsoft to help the blind. 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