Thanks. On 5/17/2017 9:41 PM, Brenda via Talk wrote: > Hey Nick, > > I suggest starting on the Window-Eyes migration page of AI Squaared. > Raul gives some really neat short tutorials from a Window-eyes > prospective that are really helpful. Jaws has some really neat on-board > tutorials where you can listen while you performwhat the tutorial is > explaining. > > Take your time and learn a little at a time. > > Brenda > > On 5/17/2017 7:07 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: >> Question: >> >> Is there much in the way of training matterial and tutorials >> (specifically) on Youtube? >> >> On 5/17/2017 4:56 PM, Tony C via Talk wrote: >>> Hi, As good as the trainning materials are, and the Jaws help. If >>> someone can't take the time to read and listen to the materials that >>> cover the area they need help with, then that's pretty lazy in my >>> opinion. I haven't used Jaws since 2004 and quite a bit has changed and >>> I've forgotten a heck of a lot. I've had to ask a few questions, and >>> I've listened to a little of the trainning materials that are in the >>> Daisey books. So far I'm impressed with the way Jaws is working for me, >>> and I'm happy with all the contact that I have had with VFO. Tony >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Raul A. Gallegos via Talk >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:07 PM >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration >>> >>> Richard, this means you have a choice. If you can find a trainer who is >>> willing to work with you after hours, then you make it happen. However, >>> this will not happen for free in most cases. This is especially true if >>> you want one-on-one training. As mentioned from me and a few others, you >>> might be able to set something up with someone if you feel you really >>> need one-on-one training. Some will do this as a volunteer and for free >>> while most will want to be charged for their time. >>> >>> >>> Best of luck, and if you are interested, let me know. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Raul A. Gallegos >>> Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions >>> Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 >>> Office: 832.639.4477 >>> Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com >>> Work Email: train...@rgats.com >>> Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer >>> >>> “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - >>> David Thornburg >>> >>> On 5/17/2017 12:43 PM, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk wrote: >>>> No of course not however why can't these companies have people to >>>> work from home when the regular crew finishes their shift. Perfect >>>> example I get home from work or maybe a ballgame or concert or >>>> whatever it is midnight I am doing something on my home computer and I >>>> encounter a problem, what do I do? Can't fix the problem next morning >>>> since I must go to work. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Talk >>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >>>> Behalf Of John Farley via Talk >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:10 PM >>>> To: 'richard kurlander' <r.kurlan...@verizon.net>; 'Window-Eyes >>>> Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Juan Hernandez' >>>> <juanhernande...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration >>>> >>>> Richard, >>>> >>>> Are you really asking that a blind person, such as myself in the past, >>>> who just happens to work in the computer field should, at the end of a >>>> long day, find someone who is having problems with their use of the >>>> PC, travel to wherever they live and spend a few hours helping them >>>> out? >>>> Working as a blind person in the sighted world of computing is a hard >>>> slog and not as easy as you may think. >>>> >>>> I have tried to provide the hands on help in the past. It was not >>>> successful from my viewpoint. >>>> It often turns out that in fact you finish up teaching basic PC skills >>>> as well as how to use a screen reader, which is not what I signed up >>>> for. >>>> >>>> I will provide written help on user lists such as this, but no longer >>>> hands on help. >>>> I do, very occasionally, stand in as a trainer in a local class for >>>> teaching visually impaired people about PC skills when the usual >>>> trainer is on vacation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, John >>>> >>>> Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 >>>> Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Talk >>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet....@lists.window-eyes.com] >>>> On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:39 AM >>>> To: Juan Hernandez; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration >>>> >>>> if you a computer engineer you know a lot more >>>> than I do and people like you should help other >>>> blind people by giving them hands on training if >>>> you do tech support.At 04:01 PM 5/16/2017, you wrote: >>>>> Simplicity is in the eye of the beholder. We all >>>>> need different things. I am a computer >>>>> engineer, so I need access to some of the more >>>>> advanced aspects of the screen reader to use my >>>>> various software development tools. Screen >>>>> readers are there to help all of us. And that >>>>> means having lots of features that some of us >>>>> will use and that others will not. Best, Juan >>>>> Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com 619-750-9431 >>>>> (M) | 858-777-3311 (F) My WebSite | >>>>> Twitter | FaceBook | LinkedIn -----Original >>>>> Message----- From: Talk >>>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+juanhernandez98=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:01 AM To: Russ >>>>> Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes >>>>> Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >>>>> Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration I >>>>> don't like that either if this what does happen. >>>>> I use outlook 2013 at work part of office 365 >>>>> and at home I still use Eudora 7.1.9 for my >>>>> client e-mail and I have also outlook set up as >>>>> I have also office 365 at home. Don't you feel >>>>> that screne readers should be made as simple as >>>>> possible? -----Original Message----- From: Talk >>>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc....@lists.window-eyes.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Tuesday, >>>>> May 16, 2017 11:40 AM To: Steve Nutt >>>>> <st...@comproom.co.uk>; 'Dennis Long' >>>>> <dennisl1...@gmail.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion >>>>> List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: >>>>> Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration I just wished all >>>>> of the graphics were labeled in the windows live >>>>> mail app. When I arrow up and down in the >>>>> windows live maill app in jaws, it won’t say >>>>> things like, replied, forwarded, read etc. It >>>>> does in window eyes. -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, >>>>> 2017 1:21 AM To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes >>>>> Discussion List' Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to >>>>> JAWS Migration Hi, It really depends on what you >>>>> want to do. NVDA is vastly better on the web >>>>> than JAWS and I believe always will be. But not >>>>> configurable enough. All the best Steve >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Talk >>>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 15 May >>>>> 2017 17:45 To: 'Darrell Bowles' >>>>> <dgbow...@msn.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion >>>>> List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: >>>>> 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: >>>>> Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Got news for one >>>>> or two user won't make a difference. You get >>>>> what you pay for or don't pay for. NVDA is >>>>> nowhere as good as Jaws! -----Original >>>>> Message----- From: Talk >>>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: >>>>> Monday, May 15, 2017 12:38 PM To: >>>>> aist...@ameritech.net; Window-Eyes Discussion >>>>> List Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration >>>>> If you really want to send a message to VFO, >>>>> either use narrator, Supernova, or donate to >>>>> NVDA! -----Original Message----- From: Talk >>>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn....@lists.window-eyes.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Adaptive Information Systems Inc. >>>>> via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:35 PM To: >>>>> 'Doug Geoffray' <dgeoff...@vfogroup.com>; >>>>> 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: >>>>> Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Hi Doug, Is there >>>>> any chance another company could buy window-eyes >>>>> and keep it developing in to the great screen >>>>> reader it is now? What a crying shame we blind >>>>> screen reader folks only have one choice here in >>>>> the U.S. for screen readers!! So I am again >>>>> looking at Dolphin screen reader, since I use to >>>>> have it back with version 3.5 and also learning >>>>> better how to use NVDA, though NVDA has a good >>>>> way to go to equal Window-eyes! Regards, Roger >>>>> Behm Adaptive Information Systems Inc. We Make >>>>> Technology Accessible to the vision Impaired and >>>>> Reading Disabled Roger A. Behm, President 1611 >>>>> Clover Lane Janesville WI 53545-1388 Fax: >>>>> 608-758-7898 Voice: 608-758-0933 Email: >>>>> aist...@ameritech.net Web Page: >>>>> www.adaptiveinformation.org -----Original >>>>> Message----- From: Talk >>>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+aistech=ameritech....@lists.window-eyes.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent: >>>>> Monday, May 15, 2017 9:48 AM To: Window-Eyes >>>>> Discussion List Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS >>>>> Migration Window-Eyes will continue to run as it >>>>> always has. Even if you migrate you can >>>>> continue to have Window-Eyes installed and >>>>> switch back and forth as you need to. The only >>>>> thing with Window-Eyes is it will no longer be >>>>> upgraded. So 9.5.4 is the last version. Regards, >>>>> Doug -----Original Message----- From: Talk >>>>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup....@lists.window-eyes.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, >>>>> 2017 10:28 AM To: Aaron Smith >>>>> <ajsm...@vfogroup.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion >>>>> List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: >>>>> Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Need clarity on >>>>> one thing. As an current paid user of WE, if we >>>>> convert to JAWS, does that mean we no longer can >>>>> use WE? ----- Original Message ----- From: >>>>> "Aaron Smith via Talk" >>>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> To: >>>>> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Sent: Monday, May >>>>> 15, 2017 10:14 AM Subject: Window-Eyes to JAWS >>>>> Migration Thank you for being a valued member of >>>>> the GW Micro and Window-Eyes family. We regret >>>>> to announce that sales of Window-Eyes have ended >>>>> in the United States and Canada. Users outside >>>>> of the United States and Canada should contact >>>>> their local distributor for options. We are >>>>> committed to our customers and will honor >>>>> existing product purchases and software >>>>> maintenance agreements, and we will continue to >>>>> provide technical support to end users that have >>>>> purchased Window-Eyes or a support package. All >>>>> users who are currently using Window-Eyes can >>>>> continue to use the software indefinitely; >>>>> however, as the Windows(r) operating system >>>>> and/or applications change over time, >>>>> Window-Eyes may not function adequately for your >>>>> needs. We understand how important a screen >>>>> reader is to you and are offering JAWS(r) for >>>>> Windows 18 as a replacement. We are committed to >>>>> providing a smooth transition and will honor >>>>> existing Window-Eyes product purchases and >>>>> software maintenance agreements (SMA), as >>>>> follows. End users that paid for and are current >>>>> with Window-Eyes 9.x will be converted to JAWS >>>>> 18 at no charge. If you are using an earlier >>>>> version of Window-Eyes, you can purchase an >>>>> upgrade to JAWS 18. If you are using the free >>>>> version of Window-Eyes you can continue to use >>>>> it. While there is not an upgrade path from the >>>>> free version, if you are interested in >>>>> purchasing JAWS, please contact our sales team >>>>> at 800-444-4443. Existing Window-Eyes SMAs will >>>>> be rolled into the JAWS SMA program for end >>>>> users that migrate to JAWS. Learn more about the >>>>> migration options and pricing by visiting >>>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate. To >>>>> make this process as easy as possible, we ask >>>>> you to complete a simple web form that will go >>>>> directly to our sales team, who will then >>>>> contact you with an authorization code for JAWS >>>>> 18, or request additional information if >>>>> necessary. 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