Yep they are a pain. All the best
Steve -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris G via Talk Sent: 21 May 2017 11:45 To: Steve Nutt via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Last November I had an issue where those virtual ribbons got in the way of Braille output. We turned them off and the display worked as it should. I can't remember the specifics of the situation but do know turning them off restored functionality. Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. https://www.MysticAccess.com Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more. Contact: Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500) Twitter: MysticAccess Facebook: mysticaccessempower -------- Original Message -------- From: Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 6:12 AM EST To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: whole migrating situation Hi, Actually I think those virtual ribbons get in the way, because they disable Microsoft's shortcuts. For example, if you want to update Office, you can just press alt, then F, then D, then R, then you're in the updates window. But try that with virtual ribbons turned on. I recommend learning the Office interface. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: 16 May 2017 19:55 To: 'Kurlander Richard (750000)' <rkur...@schools.nyc.gov>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: whole migrating situation Learn jaws it has virtual ribbons -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:36 PM To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: whole migrating situation We have a monopoly now, since eventually ie will be gone and everyone will have to use Microsoft edge and if jaws is the only screne reader that can work with Microsoft edge what can you do? If Microsoft decides to change windows to do updates and office which they did when they introduced the ribbon things became harder. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:53 PM To: Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: whole migrating situation Then we have a monopoly, where there is only one option. Sent from my iPhone On May 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Dennis Long via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: I agree either accept the offer or don't. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:30 PM To: Kurlander Richard (750000); Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: FW: whole migrating situation With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have realized from participating on this list, is the variety of needs and experiences WE users have. So while you and I don't use mouse keys (for example), others do. I probably use %2 of WE's functionality, so probably any screen reader I use will work for my needs or wants, but others need far more than I do. No one is forcing you to purchase anything, but likely, you will have to adapt to new technology whether that technology is adaptive or commercial (meaning for the sighted public as well). On 5/16/2017 10:13 AM, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk wrote: -----Original Message----- From: Kurlander Richard (750000) Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:50 AM To: 'talk-l...@window-eyes.com' <talk-l...@window-eyes.com> Subject: whole migrating situation As a window-eyes user since 1997 I feel that people who used and are using window-eyes were sold down the river and in the end Doug and Aaron and all of gw micro actually sold us out. I feel that since vfo bought all these other companies that they should tried to make the screen readers as close to each other as possible, not having to have to learn a new screen reader. I think that when you use screen readers you should only have to use arrow keys, tab keys, application keys not use mouse keys, numpad keys since it is a pain in the neck to keep switching and holding down keys. Vfo could have had a window-eyes keyboard layout and the biggest problem also is that Microsoft wants everyone to use Microsoft edge and not ie firefox or chrome any more. I am sick and tired of tech people telling you to read a manuel or listen to pod casts. I am a blind person who works and do you think I have the time or energy to have to listen to the editorals? Where are the cheat sheets that c an be sent out? I am not a computer geek or do I want to be a geek. 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