FWIW, I use the laptop layout on both laptop keyboards as well as full
size keyboards. The nice thing is that I don't lose the functionality of
the number pad even with the laptop layout. Yet, I gain so much more
flexibility. I would recommend this for many users.
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On 5/23/2017 9:39 AM, Ed Culpepper via Talk wrote:
I have not tried the laptop layout. I will check out that possibility. I have
not loaded Jaws on my laptop yet, but I certainly will be doing so. I can
anticipate that using the same keyboard layout on both my desktop and laptop
could be advantageous. Using the same keystrokes regardless of which computer I
am using seems more simple and efficient.
Thanks for the suggestion and link.
Ed Culpepper
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From: Joseph Norton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:04 PM
To: Ed Culpepper; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
Hi:
Have you tried the laptop layout?
Here is a link to a set of mp3 files describing it. This is also available in a DAISY book through FS Reader. Here is the link;
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/LaptopKeysWithJAWS.zip
Hope this helps.
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From: Ed Culpepper via Talk <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:28 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
Greeting WE Migrants -
I am learning Jaws navigational keystrokes as I migrate from beloved WE to
Jaws. Using the insert key as a primary Jaws modifier key is very awkward
for me. On my keyboard the insert key is the top left key on the so-called
"6-pack" of keys located just above the arrow keys. The Jaws command to
begin "Say All" (like WE "Read to End") is Insert-down arrow. That requires
an awkward contortion of my right hand or an inconvenient reach with my left
hand for the insert key as I press the down arrow with my right hand. Other
navigational commands use the insert key as the modifier with keys that are
usually typed with fingers on the right hand. I am finding these keystroke
combinations to be frustrating.
Obviously Jaws users have been using this illogical keystroke combination
for years. I must be missing something about how to do so efficiently. I
have read about altering navigational keystrokes in Jaws, but I don't want
to have to redesign the whole set of them. Bottom line is that I have a
couple of questions:
1. Is there some alternative to the insert key as a primary modifier key for
navigational keystrokes in Jaws? The WE Control-Alt combination with a
single letter key was much more ergonomically efficient. To longtime Jaws
users: I am looking to you for help or encouragement for the insert key
awkwardness - any help?
2. Can I reprogram my computer or Windows 10 to recognize some key of my
choosing to function as an additional insert key? For example, could I
sacrifice the Control key on the left side of my keyboard to become an
insert key to use as a modifier with keys typically typed with my right
hand?
I hope that I am not obsessing over what turns out with experience
manipulating Jaws to be simply a curious quirk for a new user. Any help will
be appreciated.
Many thanks -
Ed Culpepper
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