hi raul,
Apparently, I must have some strange quirk with my keyboard. I have
pressed the capslock key as quickly as I possibly could. It absolutely
will not switch the setting. However, using alt-capslock does work, so
as long as it does, I will use it. The only time I have any difficulty
at all is when I want to use the f1 through f4 keys. That reach is a
bit awkward for me. I have been trying to practice and I think it
should be possible eventually. I might need to start exercising my
little left-hand pinky, though, grin. Thank you for your help.
I doubt that it should make any difference, but my keyboard is one of
those wireless ones with a little USB things put out by Dell. The PC is
about 7-1/2 years old and is running Windows 7, 64-bit Windows. Both
Dell and Windows have indicated to me that I should not update to
Windows 10 on this system because it will not support it. I do see a
new computer in my future, but I hope it is not too soon.
Carol
On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote:
Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state,
all you need to do is press it twice quickly.
I hope that helps.
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On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote:
Hi Raul,
I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default
Jaws key now. I do have one question Is it possible to turn on
caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off. Now, it says
nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher
pitch. Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but I
am not sure why it is no longer working.
This is really strange! I went out of my email and when I
alt-tabbed, or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the
alt-Caps-Lock combo accidently instead. Guess what! Alt-Caps-Lock
sets and says the state of the Caps-Lock. Go figure! So, is it
supposed to be alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the Caps-Lock?
Pressing the Caps-Lock key now works just like the insert key used
to. I believe someone indicated there were times I should press it
twice, but I don't remember why. I just hope the setting stays
whenever it is necessary to restart Jaws, since I don't know how it
got this way. I like it like this.
Take care,
Carol
On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by
pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys
along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really
works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out of
the alt-tab order.
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Office: 832.639.4477
Personal Email: [email protected]
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On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching a
desktop keyboard setting to laptop setting, it might be worthhwhile
to make sure Jaws is in the alt-tab setting. Trying to use the
capslock key to get into the Jaws setting was very tempramental for
me. It only worked on a very few occasions and I did try many
times to use it. I am certain there was some operator error, but
even I can't have messed up that badly, LOL!
Carol, happily using my insert key!
On 5/23/2017 10:39 AM, Ed Culpepper via Talk wrote:
I have not tried the laptop layout. I will check out that
possibility. I have not loaded Jaws on my laptop yet, but I
certainly will be doing so. I can anticipate that using the same
keyboard layout on both my desktop and laptop could be
advantageous. Using the same keystrokes regardless of which
computer I am using seems more simple and efficient.
Thanks for the suggestion and link.
Ed Culpepper
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From: Joseph Norton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:04 PM
To: Ed Culpepper; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
Hi:
Have you tried the laptop layout?
Here is a link to a set of mp3 files describing it. This is also
available in a DAISY book through FS Reader. Here is the link;
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/LaptopKeysWithJAWS.zip
Hope this helps.
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From: Ed Culpepper via Talk <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 5:28 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Alternative for Insert as Awkward Jaws Modifier Key?
Greeting WE Migrants -
I am learning Jaws navigational keystrokes as I migrate from
beloved WE to
Jaws. Using the insert key as a primary Jaws modifier key is very
awkward
for me. On my keyboard the insert key is the top left key on the
so-called
"6-pack" of keys located just above the arrow keys. The Jaws
command to
begin "Say All" (like WE "Read to End") is Insert-down arrow. That
requires
an awkward contortion of my right hand or an inconvenient reach
with my left
hand for the insert key as I press the down arrow with my right
hand. Other
navigational commands use the insert key as the modifier with keys
that are
usually typed with fingers on the right hand. I am finding these
keystroke
combinations to be frustrating.
Obviously Jaws users have been using this illogical keystroke
combination
for years. I must be missing something about how to do so
efficiently. I
have read about altering navigational keystrokes in Jaws, but I
don't want
to have to redesign the whole set of them. Bottom line is that I
have a
couple of questions:
1. Is there some alternative to the insert key as a primary
modifier key for
navigational keystrokes in Jaws? The WE Control-Alt combination
with a
single letter key was much more ergonomically efficient. To
longtime Jaws
users: I am looking to you for help or encouragement for the
insert key
awkwardness - any help?
2. Can I reprogram my computer or Windows 10 to recognize some key
of my
choosing to function as an additional insert key? For example,
could I
sacrifice the Control key on the left side of my keyboard to
become an
insert key to use as a modifier with keys typically typed with my
right
hand?
I hope that I am not obsessing over what turns out with experience
manipulating Jaws to be simply a curious quirk for a new user. Any
help will
be appreciated.
Many thanks -
Ed Culpepper
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