HeyReeva,

I think you should consider taking your concern up the VFO ladder to someone above the people that answer the phone. Sure seems like Fusion users should have gotten the same type of offer as W-E users did. Maybe if you dig around you can find someone higher up the food chain to appeal to.

It doesn't hurt to try, even if only for the principle of it.
Brenda

On 8/22/2017 12:34 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
For whatever stupid reason, people like me who bought the we based zoomtext
fusion got no discount at all on uprading. Despite the fact i'm in the same
boat as just we users. I'm not even saying  we should gotten free upgrades.
Sorry y'all but this makes me angry. I would've thought about going to the
jaws based version of fusion if they would've been like ok, instead of $200
for upgrade and $200 for the sma. We'll give y'all a break and do $75
upgrade and $100 for sma. Hell, even if they would've given we fusion users
blindness convention pricing without having to go to the conventions.  I
might have done that but no.   I will be using my we version of zt fusion,
slowly learn nvda better and wait to see if google puts out a new
chromebook pixel and buy that or another chromebook.

"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On Aug 21, 2017 11:24 AM, "Sky Mundell via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:

Yeah and you know what is ironic about all of this? When Magic 12 came out,
Freedom Scientific issued a competitive upgrade plan so that people with
Zoom text could upgrade to Magic for about $100 or so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:57 PM
To: Sky Mundell via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

That depends on the deal with APH. But they'll probably just eventually
replace Magic with ZoomText. Just like with Window-Eyes there's no
practical
reason for them to maintain two magnifiers. Magic is probably already on
death row allowing only critical updates while ZoomText is actively
developed.
Regards,
Tom


On 8/21/2017 2:06 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:
Oh Sure. That's right. But what about the Magic and JAWS student
editions?
Magic was used in Colombia with JAWS,and APH and FS launched student
copies of JAWS and Magic.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of
Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:47 PM
To: Sky Mundell via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

VFO bought AI Squared for two reasons.
1. To replace their useless Magic magnifier with the best selling
ZoomText.
2. To kill their competition in the screen reading world, Window-Eyes.
End of story.
Regards,
Tom


On 8/21/2017 12:14 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:
Because their still needs to be improvements made to Window-Eyes, for
example, Edge support, it needs rewritten braille support, it needs
touchscreen support, it needs this and that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of
Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:12 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Nick Sarames
Subject: Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

Why would they?

On 8/20/2017 9:22 PM, Debby Franson via Talk wrote:
Hi!

I wonder if VFO would ever sell the code.

Debby

At 12:37 PM 8/20/2017, Dennis Long via Talk wrote
They won't give code up.  Come on think that through.  What company
do you know that gives code that was a product that was sold for
profit to just give it away.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of
Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 1:19 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Sky Mundell
Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

They might give the Window-Eyes code up to a company like Humanware.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of
Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:04 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

I'm pretty sure they own the code.  I say this for a few reasons 1
they bought AI Squared and their products.  What are their products?
WE is one of those.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of
Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:46 PM
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Sky Mundell
Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

I hope it does VFO didn't say anything about owning the Window-Eyes
code or anything.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of
Olusegun
-- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:06 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Dennis Long'
Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

Tom, hopefully I'm not being overtly patronizing especially now
that Window-Eyes is dead!!  That aside, Window-Eyes is an
impressive screen reader whose ageless awareness outshines the sun!
Maybe--just maybe--someday, someone will UNSCRAMBLE the Window-Eyes
code and PORT IT OVER to Android thus avoiding some crappy nonsense
on
the part of V F O.
Should that happen, it's glorious days migh yet return again!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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