Yeah I know what you mean, and to think JAWS is still perceived as the #1 product in agencies for the blind.
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:20 AM To: bjn...@windstream.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Reeva Webb Subject: Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume Believe me i tried. I sent multiple messages through the contact form on the vfo website. Sent emails to several people that were higher up/i thought were still at ai2 and either got nothing, canned response, email back that the person i was trying to contact was no longer there or my email got forwarded to customer service. I did bring it up in a thread on list that dan was on but i don't think it was seen. I also tried emailing dan directly and it bounced every time. At this point i'm done. Like i said using my we version of fusion, learning nvda better slowly, have android devices at my side and waiting for google to hopefully put out a updated chromebook pixel. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Aug 22, 2017 11:42 AM, "Brenda via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > HeyReeva, > > I think you should consider taking your concern up the VFO ladder to > someone above the people that answer the phone. Sure seems like > Fusion users should have gotten the same type of offer as W-E users > did. Maybe if you dig around you can find someone higher up the food chain to appeal to. > > It doesn't hurt to try, even if only for the principle of it. > Brenda > > On 8/22/2017 12:34 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: > >> For whatever stupid reason, people like me who bought the we based >> zoomtext fusion got no discount at all on uprading. Despite the fact >> i'm in the same boat as just we users. I'm not even saying we should >> gotten free upgrades. >> Sorry y'all but this makes me angry. I would've thought about going >> to the jaws based version of fusion if they would've been like ok, >> instead of >> $200 >> for upgrade and $200 for the sma. We'll give y'all a break and do $75 >> upgrade and $100 for sma. Hell, even if they would've given we fusion >> users blindness convention pricing without having to go to the >> conventions. I >> might have done that but no. I will be using my we version of zt fusion, >> slowly learn nvda better and wait to see if google puts out a new >> chromebook pixel and buy that or another chromebook. >> >> "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never >> promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" >> Walls Of Jericho >> >> Reeva >> >> On Aug 21, 2017 11:24 AM, "Sky Mundell via Talk" < >> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >> wrote: >> >> Yeah and you know what is ironic about all of this? When Magic 12 >> came >>> out, >>> Freedom Scientific issued a competitive upgrade plan so that people >>> with Zoom text could upgrade to Magic for about $100 or so. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of >>> Tom Kingston via Talk >>> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:57 PM >>> To: Sky Mundell via Talk >>> Cc: Tom Kingston >>> Subject: Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume >>> >>> That depends on the deal with APH. But they'll probably just >>> eventually replace Magic with ZoomText. Just like with Window-Eyes >>> there's no practical reason for them to maintain two magnifiers. >>> Magic is probably already on death row allowing only critical >>> updates while ZoomText is actively developed. >>> Regards, >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> On 8/21/2017 2:06 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: >>> >>>> Oh Sure. That's right. But what about the Magic and JAWS student >>>> >>> editions? >>> >>>> Magic was used in Colombia with JAWS,and APH and FS launched >>>> student copies of JAWS and Magic. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of >>>> Tom Kingston via Talk >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:47 PM >>>> To: Sky Mundell via Talk >>>> Cc: Tom Kingston >>>> Subject: Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume >>>> >>>> VFO bought AI Squared for two reasons. >>>> 1. To replace their useless Magic magnifier with the best selling >>>> >>> ZoomText. >>> >>>> 2. To kill their competition in the screen reading world, Window-Eyes. >>>> End of story. >>>> Regards, >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/21/2017 12:14 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: >>>> >>>>> Because their still needs to be improvements made to Window-Eyes, >>>>> for >>>>> >>>> example, Edge support, it needs rewritten braille support, it needs >>>> touchscreen support, it needs this and that. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf >>>>> Of Nick Sarames via Talk >>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:12 PM >>>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>>> Cc: Nick Sarames >>>>> Subject: Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume >>>>> >>>>> Why would they? >>>>> >>>>> On 8/20/2017 9:22 PM, Debby Franson via Talk wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder if VFO would ever sell the code. >>>>>> >>>>>> Debby >>>>>> >>>>>> At 12:37 PM 8/20/2017, Dennis Long via Talk wrote >>>>>> >>>>>>> They won't give code up. Come on think that through. What >>>>>>> company do you know that gives code that was a product that was >>>>>>> sold for profit to just give it away. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf >>>>>>> Of Sky Mundell via Talk >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 1:19 PM >>>>>>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>>>>>> Cc: Sky Mundell >>>>>>> Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They might give the Window-Eyes code up to a company like Humanware. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf >>>>>>> Of Dennis Long via Talk >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:04 AM >>>>>>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>>>>>> Cc: Dennis Long >>>>>>> Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm pretty sure they own the code. I say this for a few reasons >>>>>>> 1 they bought AI Squared and their products. What are their products? >>>>>>> WE is one of those. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf >>>>>>> Of Sky Mundell via Talk >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:46 PM >>>>>>> To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >>>>>>> Cc: Sky Mundell >>>>>>> Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope it does VFO didn't say anything about owning the >>>>>>> Window-Eyes code or anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf >>>>>>> Of Olusegun >>>>>>> -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:06 AM >>>>>>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Dennis Long' >>>>>>> Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. >>>>>>> Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom, hopefully I'm not being overtly patronizing especially now >>>>>>> that Window-Eyes is dead!! That aside, Window-Eyes is an >>>>>>> impressive screen reader whose ageless awareness outshines the sun! >>>>>>> Maybe--just maybe--someday, someone will UNSCRAMBLE the >>>>>>> Window-Eyes code and PORT IT OVER to Android thus avoiding some >>>>>>> crappy nonsense on >>>>>>> >>>>>> the part of V F O. >>>> >>>>> Should that happen, it's glorious days migh yet return again! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>> Olusegun >>>>>>> Denver, Colorado >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those >>>>>>> of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For membership options, visit >>>>>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sk >>>>>>> yt% >>>>>>> 4 >>>>>>> 0 >>>>>>> shaw.ca >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For 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