Hi:
This is insider build 16299, the Windows version is 1709. If they
don't make any significant changes in the kernel, it should still give
you some functionality with Window-Eyes.
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From: Russ Kiehne [mailto:[email protected]]
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Next week Windows 10 Fall Creator's Edition, version 1709 will be
Is that the version you now have?
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Hi Russ and listers:
All I can say is that I am running window-eyes with the latest Windows
10 Insider build 16299 and no major problems.
There are a couple issues where WE doesn't seem to read the screen
when reviewing it. WE 9.54 still browses the Web ok, for the most part.
Once the Fall Creator's update comes out, it will be easier to figure
out what's still working and what no longer works well. For a while,
even with the regular build of Windows 10, WE stopped working with
MicroSoft's Mail program for Windows.
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Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts
Speaking of Window Eyes, does anyone happen to know if it will work
with next weeks release of windows 10 fall update?
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From: net bat via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts
because f s had all the money to throw around to permote there
products and to businesses and schools. few even heard of window eyes
and were not willing to use a product they never heard of. if they
knew window eyes worked most of the time right out of the box without
scripts years ago they would of dropped jaws in a heart beat. they
could of saved thousands of dollars because they would not of had to
pay script righters to get there software working.
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From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:42 AM
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Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts
While I believe what you say, why are there so many Jaws users, even
some here, who swear by Jaws? They can't all be ignorant, can they?
What I am guessing is happening is, each screen reader has its issues
and some websites work better on WE, and other websites work better on
Jaws. Of course, that is a separate issue from other issues involving
the overall stability of each reader.
On 10/10/2017 8:33 AM, Chuck Adkins via Talk wrote:
Well, I've been using Jaws for a while now and I must confess the
Window-eyes was the much better product both in speed, browsing,
usability, layout, and so much more. Like on the Ohio Lottery
Website, when reading the pick 5 Jaws will not scroll down
continuously down the page like NVDA, Narrator, and Window-eyes do. I
also find Window-eyes synthesizer support was much better. I am not
whining, I am just bemoaning the fact that a company got by with
trashing a product completely, borrowing or using nothing from the
product they trashed and acting like Window-eyes never existed, not
to mention charging so much for the product. Don't give me that
similar stuff, because I've found webpages where Jaws just doesn't
work and NVDA and Narrator do.
So why won't I just shut up? I will, just wanted to point out in my
view what I've realized, and hopefully NVDA, Narrator and others will
be able to say Thank You to VFO for pushing us to a day when a 2
thousand dollar screen reader is no longer need.
Thanks for reading, I'm now shutting up.
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