Larry,
First, no need to go to confession on Window-Eyes for Office. It's the
same program. (smile)
Like Rod, I thought of the Fall Creators update after sending my message
because from what I've read it's pretty buggy. And I haven't updated to
it either. So did this start right after installing the Fall Update?
In reference to David's comments, it's worth disabling other apps,
especially if you use a lot of them. You can do this under Apps, App
management, App manager. If the "Show more options" check box is
checked, which you can tab down to, you can just go through your list
and hit Alt-E to disable them. Do the same again to re-enable them. I
actually disable the apps I seldom use and just enable them when I need
them and then disable them again. And compared to many I use few apps to
begin with. In my opinion less is more.
Regarding your question about the OCR component, David? The easiest way
to tell would be to close Window-Eyes, launch NVDA, and try its OCR. It
also uses the built-in Windows OCR.
I've never used it before because I too haven't gotten around to
actually learning NVDA to any real extent. But I just tried it and it
worked fine. I went into Thunderbird and while focused on a message in
the in-box list I hit NVDA+R. This is only going to give you OCR of the
focused item. So all I got was the message I was focused on. And just to
twist my brain a little the title bar in the OCR viewer is the title bar
of the window you're recognizing. But that one entry was broken into
three lines: sender, subject, date and time. And that was all that was
in the window.
Then press escape to do just that.
Regarding reinstalling the GW-Toolkit? Typically if that isn't working
most apps won't work. But it can't hurt to try.
And after pondering it a bit more I'm not so sure it has anything to do
with the dialog, even though the error is with the dlgResult object. In
this type of app I would build all the needed constructs first, get
those elements primed, and then load the dialog. But this is where these
apps being encrypted makes it impossible to do more than toss out random
guesses. I would expect any errors prior to the display of the dialog to
be caught and a message window posted to the user. I can't imagine why
just showing a dialog would suddenly start throwing an error.
One more thing you can try is to open the Window-Eyes control panel,
Alt-F File, E Explore profile folder, find virtualView.ini and either
delete it or rename it VirtualView.ini.bak. This will default it back to
clip recognition rather than OCR if that's the active mode.
Otherwise I'm out of guesses. At least for tonight.
Wait! Hold the presses! Go into App Manager, tab down to Security, and
make sure it's set to trust all apps.
Good luck,
Tom
On 10/30/2017 9:16 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
Tom,
Thanks for the suggestion. I did look to see if Windows TIFF iFilter
was indeed checked,, and it was, but it made no difference.
The error comes up as soon as I run VV.
I must confess that I am using WE for Office, but never have experienced
this ever before. It has always been a useful app, VV that is.
If you can come up with any other reasonable suggestions, they would
really be very much appreciated. Who knows maybe it is about time to
really knuckle down with NVDA, but I really don't wanna <smile>.
Thanks again,
Larry
On 10/30/2017 6:46 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
Hmm. You see these errors "all the time" Rod?
I don't recall ever seeing such an error. Making sure the object
exists and pausing and trying again if it doesn't should prevent this
most of the time. But of course there are always exceptions to the
rule. We can only pause and try again so many times before assuming
we're not going to get what we want. Then we should notify the user
and bow out gracefully.
If I remember right Aaron Smith wrote virtual View. And I'm sure he
incorporated proper error checking and handling.
Virtual View works fine here in Thunderbird, which is where Larry was
running it.
Larry. Given the name of the object (dlgResult) it is for a dialog. If
you're getting this error on launch before anything comes up in
Virtual view then it's on the main window creation, which is strange
because it's just an XML dialog. But if the main window opens and you
get it when pressing the OK button after making your selection then
something in that selection is throwing an error.
Just for the heck of it I'd open the Control panel, Programs and
Features.
Shift+Tab up to the Turn Windows features on or off link and activate it.
Make sure Windows TIFF iFilter is checked. It's the OCR component in
Windows.
Hth,
Tom
On 10/30/2017 6:03 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
Hi Larry,
This looks to me like an app error similar to errors that I encounter
all the time when an app needs info which isn't ready to be delivered
to it.
If you know how to open the App Manager, simply reload the app and
see if the app then loads properly.
Alternatively, simply shut down WE with Ctrl-Insert-F4 and Enter and
then restart it using Ctrl-Alt-W.
Hth,
Rod
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To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]>
Cc: Larry Higgins <[email protected]>
Subject: An error when trying to use virtual view
Dear Listers,
I've never encountered this one before. For some reason I am getting the
below error whenever trying to use Virtual View. I have tried
reinstalling using Apget, but this seems to do nothing to help. Any
ideas please? I just hope this isn't a sign of WE falling apart as I
speak.
I must say that this makes me a little paranoid. I'm thinking that there
might be a bit of sabotage goin' on somewhere <smile>. But this kind of
serious. There are just times when I find this app to be quite useful,
as I'm sure all of you do.
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Larry
"An Error Occurred in Virtual View 5.0.5 (800A01A8)
Description: Object required: 'dlgResult'
Line: 903
Path: C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\GW
Micro\Window-Eyes\users\default\virtualview.vbs.wecrypt.wsf
Signed:
Active Window Title: Inbox - [email protected] - Mozilla
Thunderbird, XUL, MozillaWindowClass
Active Window Set File: thunderbird.set
Focused Window Module: XUL, MozillaWindowClass
Window-Eyes Version: 9.5.4.0
Active Synthesizer: Eloquence
Active Braille Display: None
OS Version: 10.0 (16299) SP: 0.0
GW Toolkit: 8.6.8"
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