That is why I use window-eyes as often as I can and n v d a when needed.
For example, I do find n v d a works much better onn my bank's web page.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Thu, 22 Feb 2018, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

A lot to understand about the JAWS user interface?Indeed. I've been on computers since the DOS days and have never seen a less user friendly interface. I couldn't come up with such a menacing mess if I tried. I don't know how their developers sleep at night.

We have enough to battle with. I didn't in a million years expect such a nightmare in a screen-reader.

On 2/22/2018 11:08 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
 Sorry; I haven't used this insert j thing for a long time.  I didn't hit
 the alt key after.  But there is a lot to understand.  Pam.

 -----Original Message----- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:46 AM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Cc: Pamela Dominguez
 Subject: Re: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

 I did insert j, and all it says is jaws home use.  if I arrow down, it
 says
 the version, and the only other thing it asks me is if I want to update. 
 If
 I tab, it says nothing.  If I arrow, it says nothing else.  So, help is
 useless.  Pam.

 -----Original Message----- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:05 AM
 To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
 Cc: Pastor Gil Pries
 Subject: RE: Is it true that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

 The voices are free.
 Press insert j then go to the help menu.
 Arrow down until you hear, "More voices."
 Press enter.
 You want the premium voices Tom or Nathan are very good.
 If I can help further, you can call me at 702-568-5774.

 Pastor Gil

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail....@lists.window-eyes.com]
 On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:55 AM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
 Cc: Pamela Dominguez <geo...@optonline.net>
 Subject: Re: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

 I had done that, and it still says everything.  I tried all of the stuff
 that we were given when the transfer was done.  There were some setup
 tutorials on how to work it and how to set it up.  How do I get to hear
 what
 those voices sound like?  I think you have to buy them.  Pam.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:42 AM
 To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
 Cc: Pastor Gil Pries
 Subject: RE: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

 You can turn the camas and periods off.
 Press insert then go to basic then to voice ajustments and set the
 punctuation to none.
 Have you tried the vocalizier Expressive voices?

 Pastor Gil

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail....@lists.window-eyes.com]
 On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:04 AM
 To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
 Cc: Pamela Dominguez <geo...@optonline.net>
 Subject: Re: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

 I did, but I hate jaws.  Jaws acts as if we are simpletons.  I hate, for
 instance, that, after you press enter on an email, after you already know
 who it is from and what the subject is, that you have to listen to the
 whole
 thing, not just the body of the message.  I also hate that you can't turn
 certain things off, so you have to listen to commas and periods and stuff.
 And that eloquence is terrible!  Pam.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
 Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:33 PM
 To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
 Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 Subject: RE: Is it trure that window eyes won't work with windows 10 1803?

 If Window-Eyes finally dies with the release of the next Windows10 update,
 that could put the final nails in the casket for me.  I'll have to lick
 my
 wounds and find ways to dry my free flowing tears.

 That aside, I better work a bit more quickly on mastering my Android
 tablet;
 the nails in the casket will just about do it for me with Windows and its
 associated screen readers.  No, no Windows10 for me; no, I didn't take
 the
 offer to migrate to Jaws even though I can use Jaws.  And, no, NVDA WILL
 NOT
 cut it for what I have to do particularly with respect to gainful
 employment.

 Farewell!  Back to the sidelines I go, peeping out of my pidgin holes and
 watching the goings-on!

 Sincerely,
 Olusegun
 Denver, Colorado

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