You got that one right Larry. Window-Eyes Is unfortunately, truly, dead, never to return to life again.
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 11:06 AM To: rgarrett5--- via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Talk Digest, Vol 1191, Issue 1 You continue to receive these messages simply because WE is no longer in production. Our beloved WE will never be updated or upgraded again, and that also goes for apps. As they say in the business, WE is at the end of life, meaning that is dead, never to rise again. That's it! On 10/8/2018 7:38 AM, rgarrett5--- via Talk wrote: > Greetings, > > When ever I attempt to update Aps in WE, I get a message that update failed. > Using Windows 10 and the latest version of WE. Also, using Office 2016 and > I get some funky behavior on occasion. Any input appreciated. Bob Garrett > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 4:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Talk Digest, Vol 1191, Issue 1 > > Send Talk mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Considering Voice over (Manny Gee) > 2. Re: Considering Voice over (Tony C) > 3. Re: Considering Voice over (Rod Hutton) > 4. Re: ChromeBook Accessibility (Rod Hutton) > 5. Re: Considering Voice over (George Savory) > 6. Re: Considering VoiceOver ([email protected]) > 7. Re: Considering VoiceOver (Butch Bussen) > 8. RE: Considering VoiceOver (Amanda Lee) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 21:55:19 +0000 > From: Manny Gee <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Considering Voice over > Message-ID: > > <dm5pr10mb1723e6bd753951da13b66fc5bc...@dm5pr10mb1723.namprd10.prod.outlook. > com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Aloha to all, > > I too am in the same boat. > > I am inclined, to agree with Denis, to give Jaws a try, since going over to > Mac is having to learn 2 system, is the operating system and the voice-over. > > I find that the iPad is easier to learn than the Mac. > > I have a jaws question. > > Does Jaws have a configuration setting that mimics Window Eyes. > > Also, how do you stop Jaws from announcing the alt key, the tab key etc. > > Good luck to all, > > Manny > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:32:40 -0500 > From: "Tony C" <[email protected]> > To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Considering Voice over > Message-ID: <E7FF89BBE2C4468B916B320514553338@DESKTOPOURA8SM> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi, II have thought about the Mac also, but you almost need three hands and > 35 fingers to do some of the commands, and the price is high too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Manny Gee via Talk > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 4:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Manny Gee > Subject: Considering Voice over > > Aloha to all, > > I too am in the same boat. > > I am inclined, to agree with Denis, to give Jaws a try, since going over to > Mac is having to learn 2 system, is the operating system and the voice-over. > > I find that the iPad is easier to learn than the Mac. > > I have a jaws question. > > Does Jaws have a configuration setting that mimics Window Eyes. > > Also, how do you stop Jaws from announcing the alt key, the tab key etc. > > Good luck to all, > > Manny > > > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40media > combb.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 00:34:54 +0000 > From: Rod Hutton <[email protected]> > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Considering Voice over > Message-ID: > > <blupr18mb0388659b0f6f8174b7f6e012f5...@blupr18mb0388.namprd18.prod.outlook. > com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Tony, > > Actually, that is a little bit of a misconception. > If you buy the apple magic keyboard with numeric keypad, there are a lot of > dedicated navigation keys. > Also, you can do quite a bit with control option and the arrow keys for > navigation. > > Best, > > Rod > > Sent from my iPod > >> On Aug 25, 2018, at 7:32 PM, Tony C via Talk <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Hi, II have thought about the Mac also, but you almost need three hands > and 35 fingers to do some of the commands, and the price is high too. >> -----Original Message----- From: Manny Gee via Talk >> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 4:55 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: Manny Gee >> Subject: Considering Voice over >> >> Aloha to all, >> >> I too am in the same boat. >> >> I am inclined, to agree with Denis, to give Jaws a try, since going >> over to Mac is having to learn 2 system, is the operating system and >> the voice-over. >> >> I find that the iPad is easier to learn than the Mac. >> >> I have a jaws question. >> >> Does Jaws have a configuration setting that mimics Window Eyes. >> >> Also, how do you stop Jaws from announcing the alt key, the tab key etc. >> >> Good luck to all, >> >> Manny >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> For membership options, visit > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.windo > w-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Ftch828%2540mediacombb.net& > amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C5efb8ea820c54b3077ee08d60ae3117d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43 > 5aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636708367693227470&sdata=6HsDLdzaFPHZqcD2qOjqC2D > tECy5p%2F%2BL8d2l0jQyLcE%3D&reserved=0. >> For subscription options, visit >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists >> .window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C0 >> 1%7C%7C5efb8ea820c54b3077ee08d60ae3117d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa >> aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636708367693227470&sdata=EY%2Fte0mqqcjnDMD7DyoMC9cJ >> 1qh5WIjVqfhMmZtqpf0%3D&reserved=0 >> List archives can be found at >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists >> .window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01 >> %7C%7C5efb8ea820c54b3077ee08d60ae3117d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaa >> aaa%7C1%7C0%7C636708367693383722&sdata=s5vjmq%2Bg5KouFbbJ7gNQdTyYm >> 0SK319zXPOSCJgXtXo%3D&reserved=0 >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> For membership options, visit > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.windo > w-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.com > &data=02%7C01%7C%7C5efb8ea820c54b3077ee08d60ae3117d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb4 > 35aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636708367693383722&sdata=9A2nLbYtr2Z9R%2FgTb4ec > CwEWMkok%2B90cezH9CLRvIRs%3D&reserved=0. >> For subscription options, visit >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists >> .window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C0 >> 1%7C%7C5efb8ea820c54b3077ee08d60ae3117d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa >> aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636708367693383722&sdata=DbLkUdC%2BXn14MYgVfiSSDlam >> JdqKb1eP9RsfiRktyl8%3D&reserved=0 >> List archives can be found at >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists >> .window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01 >> %7C%7C5efb8ea820c54b3077ee08d60ae3117d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaa >> aaa%7C1%7C0%7C636708367693383722&sdata=s5vjmq%2Bg5KouFbbJ7gNQdTyYm >> 0SK319zXPOSCJgXtXo%3D&reserved=0 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 00:47:08 +0000 > From: Rod Hutton <[email protected]> > To: George Savory <[email protected]> > Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: ChromeBook Accessibility > Message-ID: > > <blupr18mb03889962db6d8d047f889f55f5...@blupr18mb0388.namprd18.prod.outlook. > com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi George, > > Yes, the Mac Mini is a good choice at $450 US. > I think you?ll be very happy with it. > I recommend the apple Magic keyboard with numeric keypad since it has > dedicated navigation keys. > > > Good luck, > > Rod > > > > Sent from my iPod > >> On Aug 24, 2018, at 12:52 PM, George Savory <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Rod, >> I agree with you. I am very comfortable using VoiceOver on my iPhone. >> The support is robust just as on Windows. >> Using Jaws or Win-Eyes on travel websites, you must select the month >> and day of travel. This process was easy using VoiceOver on my iPhone. >> It was frustrating with Jaws or Win-Eyes on my desktop. I am sure >> support would have been there if Win-Eyes was still around. >> Thanks, I will look into the mini Mac. >> >>> On 8/24/18, Rod Hutton via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi George, >>> >>> I can't speak to ChromeOS, but, getting back to the matter of Macs, >>> I'm not sure what you mean by websites that use calendars. >>> As for keeping track of personal calendar events and reminders, I >>> find my iPhone a breeze with Siri, such that I don't have to use >>> anything else but my voice, since I have learn how Siri thinks and >>> how to edit everything even when I make mistakes. >>> Of course, I always have the option of editing the calendar and >>> reminders manually with the touch screen, but this is not very often, >>> now that my scheduling system is all set up. >>> As for a Mac computer and the screen reader, at $449 US, you really >>> can't go wrong picking up a Mac Mini, although many complain about it >>> being an out-of-date machine. >>> I see now that I went a bit overboard in buying a Macbook Pro, since, >>> for me, a Mac Mini would have done the job just fine. >>> The Mac Mini is simply an aluminum tower which lies flat in the >>> footprint of a regular size apple pie, and then all you need is a >>> keyboard and a monitor whose role could be filled nowadays by most >>> flat-screen TVs and an HDMI cable. >>> They come standard with a 500 GB spinning hard drive, and VoiceOver >>> works fine with this setup. >>> Admittedly, navigating the macOS and editing documents is quite a >>> different experience, insofar as each control you want to use is not >>> immediately in focus as we are accustomed to in Windows, requiring a >>> repetitive process of interacting and un-interacting with each control. >>> Personally, I have chosen to push myself to get comfortable with >>> macOS, seeing the benefits of being in the Apple ecosystem even with my > PC. >>> It all comes down to what you want for yourself, and what you believe >>> about the manufacturers you want to associate with, and, in this >>> light, I don't think there are any right or wrong answers. >>> My wife jokes with me that I always seem happier when I use my Mac >>> than when I use my comfortable Windows 10 machine. >>> As I've mentioned before, I always wanted to use a Mac, and so I >>> suppose I'm still in the grips of my honeymoon with it. >>> Interesting, though, I still count on having my Windows PC around, >>> and so maybe I'll always have one. >>> I will say that Window-Eyes going out of support was the trigger >>> event which caused me to buy my Macbook Pro, as I sought to diversify >>> my accessibility toolbox, and even to expand out of the Windows >>> world, just incase I needed to access websites which Windows screen > readers might have trouble with. >>> Safari on the Mac has proven to be very robust in my web work, even >>> though I had some challenges up to quite recently. >>> However, I've learned the little tricks and the special hotkeys >>> necessary to access all of the different parts of web pages, and so >>> now my browsing competence on the Mac is on par with that on Windows >>> with Firefox, whether I use Window-Eyes or NVDA or Narrator. >>> Anyway, I'll leave off for now, and wish all of us well as we >>> navigate this very technical world in which we find ourselves. Smile >>> >>> All the best, >>> >>> Rod >>> >>> Sent from Outlook for Windows >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Talk >>> <[email protected]> On Behalf >>> Of George Savory via Talk >>> Sent: August 23, 2018 7:45 PM >>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> >>> Cc: George Savory <[email protected]> >>> Subject: ChromeBook Accessibility >>> >>> How good is a ChromeBook with web accessibility? >>> >>>> On 8/23/18, George Savory <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Listers, >>>> Been using Win-Eyes since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be >>>> updated, I am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. >>>> Using VoiceOver on my iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't >>>> know if Jaws will ever work well with websites that use calenders; >>>> besides, I won't have to be upgrading a screen reader everytime >>>> there is an upgrade >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.windo > w-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.com > &data=02%7C01%7C%7C751de2151f664682778e08d6095285e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb4 > 35aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636706647364490626&sdata=RjLn2ZSdOcxPGxPHdTXtZl > Ku6JrDb5MISEpViznHyZ4%3D&reserved=0. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist >>> s.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7 >>> C01%7C%7C751de2151f664682778e08d6095285e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaa >>> aaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636706647364490626&sdata=1fspJd331q0mCEuw3gK%2F >>> XzRTsbCo0XJmcQMnw8x84lI%3D&reserved=0 >>> List archives can be found at >>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist >>> s.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C >>> 01%7C%7C751de2151f664682778e08d6095285e9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaa >>> aaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636706647364490626&sdata=qG2ZsB7lWU2byd9do5tnmez >>> %2B9VCtEi4XgoJtIk1AzjU%3D&reserved=0 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.windo > w-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fgsavory%2540gmail.com& > data=02%7C01%7C%7C86dbd7eb9bd34b27227f08d609e1fbb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa > aaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636707263519949475&sdata=KE52zZC36s%2Bw%2FnuDD03FpFH > KDFhtUjR5lwIIxL%2Fh6O4%3D&reserved=0. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist >>> s.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7 >>> C01%7C%7C86dbd7eb9bd34b27227f08d609e1fbb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaa >>> aaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636707263519949475&sdata=hKVkxJpf8VqSMTCGu2s6iq >>> frArIY%2F97KhZhtyPR9wPw%3D&reserved=0 >>> List archives can be found at >>> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist >>> s.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C >>> 01%7C%7C86dbd7eb9bd34b27227f08d609e1fbb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaa >>> aaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636707263519949475&sdata=BVzjUHTV7wMTghfbsN6lEsa >>> oiwLGqorkaG8678mQIqo%3D&reserved=0 >>> > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 22:43:03 -0400 > From: George Savory <[email protected]> > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: Manny Gee <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Considering Voice over > Message-ID: > <cans13ke_3ckkpfsh0xobq1br9j5ggww1a-ixk1wr8msngob...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Jaws is indeed a good screen reader, but websites like megabus.com require > you to select the month and day you will be travelling. That's where > VoiceOver shines. It is frustrating with Jaws to select the month and day of > travel. I recently had to interact with the U.S. > postal website. Again it was a challenge with Jaws and those drop down > menus. had to revert to Win-Eyes, but VoiceOver gets the job done. > It is the reason I am leaning towards a Mac. I guess an iPad could get > things done too. > > On 8/25/18, Manny Gee via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: >> Aloha to all, >> >> I too am in the same boat. >> >> I am inclined, to agree with Denis, to give Jaws a try, since going >> over to Mac is having to learn 2 system, is the operating system and >> the voice-over. >> >> I find that the iPad is easier to learn than the Mac. >> >> I have a jaws question. >> >> Does Jaws have a configuration setting that mimics Window Eyes. >> >> Also, how do you stop Jaws from announcing the alt key, the tab key etc. >> >> Good luck to all, >> >> Manny >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gsavory%40gmai > l.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 15:34:57 -0400 > From: <[email protected]> > To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Considering VoiceOver > Message-ID: <5E6DEEE011F7473781F83DBF946ED07F@PamelaPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > But I could do more with window eyes with the computer right out of the box. > > Pam. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Long via Talk > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 11:31 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: Dennis Long > Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver > > Jaws is a very good screen reader. People need to give it time. You didn't > learn WindowEyes over night and you won't learn Jaws over night either. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of CJ&AA MAY via Talk > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 4:12 AM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: CJ&AA MAY > Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver > > I did consider going down this route but I am basically lazy and it would > mean learning a new operating system. I am so familiar with the Microsoft > operating system and Windows that in the end I bit the bullet and went over > to Jaws. > Do I still miss Window-eyes? Yes, but migrating to Jaws hasn't been as > challenging as I feared and it helped being so familiar with the Windows > operating system. > > Alison > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of George Savory via Talk > Sent: 23 August 2018 18:57 > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: George Savory <[email protected]> > Subject: Considering VoiceOver > > Listers, > Been using Win-Eyes since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be updated, I > am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using VoiceOver on my > iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't know if Jaws will ever work well > with websites that use calenders; besides, I won't have to be upgrading a > screen reader everytime there is an upgrade > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/chrisalismay%4 > 0gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 > gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40opton > line.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 12:49:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: Butch Bussen <[email protected]> > To: geodom--- via Talk <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Considering VoiceOver > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > I agree Pam. I use window-eyes and n v d a when necessary. I've considered > the dark side, but to old to learn new software and a sceen reader. > Window-eyes stil does most of what I need. > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. > > > On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, > geodom--- via Talk wrote: > >> But I could do more with window eyes with the computer right out of the > box. >> Pam. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Long via Talk >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 11:31 PM >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Cc: Dennis Long >> Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver >> >> Jaws is a very good screen reader. People need to give it time. You >> didn't learn WindowEyes over night and you won't learn Jaws over night > either. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of CJ&AA MAY via Talk >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 4:12 AM >> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Cc: CJ&AA MAY >> Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver >> >> I did consider going down this route but I am basically lazy and it >> would mean learning a new operating system. I am so familiar with the >> Microsoft operating system and Windows that in the end I bit the >> bullet and went over to Jaws. >> Do I still miss Window-eyes? Yes, but migrating to Jaws hasn't been as >> challenging as I feared and it helped being so familiar with the >> Windows operating system. >> >> Alison >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk <[email protected]> >> On Behalf Of George Savory via Talk >> Sent: 23 August 2018 18:57 >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> >> Cc: George Savory <[email protected]> >> Subject: Considering VoiceOver >> >> Listers, >> Been using Win-Eyes since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be >> updated, I am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using >> VoiceOver on my iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't know if >> Jaws will ever work well with websites that use calenders; besides, I >> won't have to be upgrading a screen reader everytime there is an >> upgrade _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/chrisali >> smay%4 >> 0gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1 >> 982%40 >> gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40opton > line.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shell > world.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 16:21:16 -0400 > From: "Amanda Lee" <[email protected]> > To: "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'm stil using Window-Eyes for Office with a current version of Windows 10 > so it is still very viable. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > <[email protected]> On Behalf > Of geodom--- via Talk > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 3:35 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Considering VoiceOver > > But I could do more with window eyes with the computer right out of the box. > > Pam. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Long via Talk > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 11:31 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: Dennis Long > Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver > > Jaws is a very good screen reader. People need to give it time. You didn't > learn WindowEyes over night and you won't learn Jaws over night either. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of CJ&AA MAY via Talk > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 4:12 AM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: CJ&AA MAY > Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver > > I did consider going down this route but I am basically lazy and it would > mean learning a new operating system. I am so familiar with the Microsoft > operating system and Windows that in the end I bit the bullet and went over > to Jaws. > Do I still miss Window-eyes? Yes, but migrating to Jaws hasn't been as > challenging as I feared and it helped being so familiar with the Windows > operating system. > > Alison > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of George Savory via Talk > Sent: 23 August 2018 18:57 > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: George Savory <[email protected]> > Subject: Considering VoiceOver > > Listers, > Been using Win-Eyes since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be updated, I > am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using VoiceOver on my > iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't know if Jaws will ever work well > with websites that use calenders; besides, I won't have to be upgrading a > screen reader everytime there is an upgrade > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/chrisalismay%4 > 0gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 > gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40opton > line.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi > se777%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ------------------------------ > > End of Talk Digest, Vol 1191, Issue 1 > ************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22 %40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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