Hi Netbat,

Okay, well, I see that you're saying that you can get Window-Eyes to shut down 
alright and then reload.
However, because there are resources open within each running instance, and 
each instance is running in a distinct user account, I'm afraid of system 
resource conflicts.
This is my take on it.
I prefer to err on the side of caution. (smile)

Cheers,

Rod

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-----Original Message-----
From: Talk <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of net bat2 via Talk
Sent: April 8, 2019 2:27 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>
Cc: net bat2 <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 2

its been working for years. grin
the only time i can't reload w e is if a running program has crashed and 
prevents w e from working.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 11:20 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: 2

Hi Netbat,

Well, I must admit to being a little squeamish about expecting Window-Eyes to 
unload the instance running in the default user account and then running it as 
administrator.
I simply think it's best to unload first and then load it as administrator.

With respect,

Rod

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-----Original Message-----
From: Talk <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of net bat2 via Talk
Sent: April 8, 2019 2:05 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>
Cc: net bat2 <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 2

if you are useing w e 9x you don't have to unload w e before you open the 
context menu.
just open a context menu on the w e icon and click on run as administrator.
w e will unload automatically and reload as administrator.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 9:49 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: 2

Hi Tom and Bob,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the goal was to run Window-Eyes as
administrator in order to change the startup option.
If I am right here, then one would focus the desktop Window-Eyes icon, close
down Window-Eyes using Ctrl-Insert-F4 and Enter, press the Applications key or
Shift-F10 and then press the letter A in order to run Window-Eyes as
administrator..

Hth,

Rod

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-----Original Message-----
From: Talk <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: April 8, 2019 12:13 PM
To: Robert Ringwald via Talk <[email protected]>
Cc: Tom Kingston <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 2

The Application key is left of the right control key. It's just a replacement
for Shift-F10, which works everywhere on my system.
Either should open a context menu. Properties is the item you want. It should
be the last item in the list. So if the menu opens, try just arrowing up once.

On 4/8/2019 11:34 AM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
> SHIFT F 10 and R does nothing. I don't know where the applications is.
>
> -Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:08 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Robert Ringwald
> Subject: Re: 2
>
> Tom,
>
> Why uncheck run as administrater when done? Why not continue to run as
> administrator?
>
> -Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:50 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Tom Kingston
> Subject: Re: 2
>
> Thanks, John.
> Okay, Bob. Here's how to run Window-Eyes as an administrator.
> Go to the Window-Eyes shortcut on your desktop.
> Press the Applications key or Shift+F10 to open the context menu.
> Press the letter R for properties.
> Tab down to the Advanced button and press it.
> check the check box to run it as an administrator.
> Press the OK button to close it.
> Now close Window-Eyes and then re-open it with Control+Alt+W.
> change the startup settings and save your settings.
> Now, go back into the desktop shortcut and uncheck run as administrator.
> Shut down Window-Eyes again and reload it.
> Hth,
> Tom
>
>
> On 4/3/2019 1:55 PM, John Covici wrote:
>> Its something they never fixed.
>>
>> On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 13:49:25 -0400,
>> Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh yeah, you're right, John. I forgot because I run an
>>> administrator's account. But shouldn't you get a UAC prompt rather
>>> than having to go to an admin account or change the file properties?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/3/2019 10:46 AM, John Covici wrote:
>>>> I think you need to run WE as administrator for this to work.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 09:09:47 -0400, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>> I don't use JAWS. So I can't help you there.
>>>>> As for loading at startup? Here's the procedure, just to make sure
>>>>> you're covering all the bases.
>>>>> Go to General, Startup Options.
>>>>> Tab once and you should hear Run Window-Eyes at the Login Screen.
>>>>> Run Window-Eyes after login for all users.
>>>>> Tab again to the Set Options button and press the space bar.
>>>>> Shift+Tab up and uncheck both check boxes. Then back to the OK
>>>>> button and press space bar.
>>>>> Tab once to the After logging in, run Window-Eyes using the global
>>>>> startup options radio button and make sure it's selected.
>>>>> Alternatively you can change it to never run Window-Eyes. But this
>>>>> is just the after logging in option. You want to make sure it's
>>>>> not running at the login screen. Changing both in the global
>>>>> options takes care of this.
>>>>> Tab to the save button and press it, or press Control+S to save
>>>>> your settings.
>>>>> Hth,
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/2/2019 7:01 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
>>>>>> 1. What is the best email list for a new Jaws user to join to ask
>>>>>> simple questions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. In Window-Eyes I keep setting the parameter to not come on
>>>>>> when computer is booting. Ithen save the setting but it does not
>>>>>> save. I have the last version of W E.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also using Windows 10.
>>>>>>
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