On 26/03/2008 01:43, Sven Grüner wrote: > Colin Marquardt schrieb: >> Since we have people's attention: please everybody extend >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Name_finder:Abbreviations > > That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related to the > name finder in particular: Is there any agreement on how to tag > abreviated place names? When there's the 'Volkswagen plant' people would > also search for 'VW plant'. Obviously no application like the name > finder can be expected to know the abreviations of all companies and > institutions of the world. So the data should hold that information itself.
One possibility is e.g. name="Volkswagen Plant [VW Plant]" if you want the name to be visible on the map as currently rendered. Name finder treats [] slightly specially in that it adds the bit in square brackets as a new phrase, in effect as if there were two name= tags "name=Volkswagen Plant" and "name=VW Plant". The significance of this is that unqualified exact matches are presented ahead of approximate matches (thus a search for "Volkswagen Plant" would put "Volkswagen Plant" ahead of "Volkswagen Plant Gate 4" for example, and the square brackets will not disrupt this ordering). I had exactly this issue in the BM Test with the London Eye, full name British Airways London Eye; you'll notice its name on the map is "name=London Eye [British Airways London Eye]". I did it that way rather than just "name=British Airways London Eye" so that either search gets an exact match. If it wasn't in that test list, I might not have been so pedantic, as London Eye would still match the full form. That wasn't true, however of "Victoria & Albert Museum" aka "V & A". > What about 'short_name', just to make that *_name list a little longer? > > BTW, does name finder use loc_name and such? It uses "name", then "place_name" (but only when name is not given), then "ref", "iata", "icao", "old_name", and "loc_name" as if these were in square brackets after the name as described above. Hence "name=Archway Road; ref=A5; loc_name=Traffic Jam From Hell" is treated as if it were "name=Archway Road [A5] [Traffic Jam From Hell]". I have also just tweaked it to include alt_name in this list, but that will only apply to new or touched objects until I do a complete reload in a few months time. and Andy Robinson said: > I don't see why we can't make use of "known_as=" names. Giving options > for "The Big Apple" and the like just sets OSM apart from the > competition. If communities are using these alternative names then it > would nice to support them in the long run. Indeed, but why not just use alt_name that we already have. Or to follow the pattern, for this kind of name, nick_name=... (If you do this, I need to know in order to recognize it to add to the index). David _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

