>From: Pieren <[email protected]>

>To: Russ Nelson <[email protected]>
>Cc: Talk Openstreetmap <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, 6 May, 2009 16:17:51
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?
>
>On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Russ Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>So, if I understand this discussion, I cannot create a POI based on
>Google aerial photography directly in OSM. But if I create my POI
>first in Wikipedia, then import it in OSM, it is permitted. Is that
>correct ?

I think there are two issues here, which are only partially related.

Firstly, there is what the relevant laws actually say on the matter. So for 
example, the laws say that if Wikipedia licenses its data as CC-BY-SA we can 
import it without worrying about it. If they didn't have the right to license 
the data as such, that is primarily their problem and we only have to respond 
if a court decides that this was improper and we should therefore remove the 
data. I am fairly happy with doing a mass import of Wikipedia data on this 
basis.

Secondly, there is the risk that a company, irrespective of what the laws say, 
will start throwing lawsuits around. I am not convinced that Google would do 
this in this case, but those from whom they license the data might do. It 
doesn't matter whether they have a case or not, their claims could be 
completely and utterly bogus. But once they've thrown their lawsuit, you are 
then tied up in an expensive legal process from which it can be very hard to 
escape unless your lawyers are bigger than theirs (or more accurately, the 
pockets that pay your lawyers are deeper than the pockets that pay theirs). 
Think of this as the "Microsoft" approach to the law. It is this risk that we 
are more concerned about here, and this is what would make me wary of doing a 
mass import. If our product is a threat to their profitability then they will 
throw morals out of the Windows and do whatever they can to halt their 
competitors, claiming that they have a moral duty to look
 after the interests of their shareholders.

Much as I hate the fact that this is how it works, it's a sad fact of this 
world that there are many large organisations who don't care about right or 
wrong who also happen to have pretty deep pockets.

Cheers,
Donald



      
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