Hi!
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb:
> 2009/6/4 Nop <ekkeh...@gmx.de>:
>> This may be true from an archeological point of view, but a tag does not
>> have to be a scientifically exact term.
>
> I don't see the point. It was proposed a tag for a sub-feature that
> occurs just in areas where English is not the native language, with an
> internationally recognised term. It is there (quite a long time) in
> the wiki. Why should it be changed?
This is not true. Outside of Germany, there are also differences between
castles - and they are the same. The difference between a defensive
castle, a palace and a fortress exists there, too, and it is also of
interest for a map. By using Local language for the same thing in every
country you just create confusion. It is easy to find tags that are in
English and work in Germany, in Britain, in France etc.
> It is there (quite a long time) in
> the wiki. Why should it be changed?
It was simply put into the wiki without a proposal or vote. Only a few
people have joined the discussion, there have been several opposing
opinions and alternate suggestions. Just nothing has happened.
This is not an indication that this is well established but rather that
it was sneaked into the wiki with very few people actually participating.
>> Most common tags are not exact matches (e.g. motorway, secondary) or even
>
> they are well defined and therefore used. Why should motorway not be
> an exact match?
So what keeps us from defining tags for castles just as well in English
and using them?
> Why should motorway not be an exact match?
If you look at roads with the same scientific level of precision, there
are differences in measurements, markings, minimum speed, maximum speed,
traffic rules etc.
>
>> If we can make non-scientific tags work everywhere else why deviate for
>> building types?
>
> to avoid confusion about certain building types. This is not even
> about the main tag (historic=castle) which everyone without special
> knowledge can apply to all "big houses", you are complaining about a
> sub tag (castle_type). I really don't see the problem.
Have you looked at the values? Do you really think a value of
"castle_type=Schloss;Burg" is a good idea? This is supposed to be one
unique value, not a sequence as everybody would assume. And the meaning
is even incomprehensible to a German.
> I think by
> changing this you would destroy the work already done in this field
> for OSM.
Not at all. As there is a 1:1 English replacement for every German term,
it can be switched to alternate terms easily without any loss of
information.
bye
Nop
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