On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Richard Weait <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:38 PM, John Smith <[email protected]> > wrote: > > 2009/9/21 Richard Weait <[email protected]>: > [ ... ] > >> So I suggest we pattern on network=us_i for Interstates, us_us for US > >> Routes, us_ny_ny for New York State Routes, us_ny_ny_co for New York > >> county roads, etc. These tags should sort nicely alphabetically for > >> bug-squashing and allow collision avoidance with imperfect knowledge > >> of other international network naming systems. > > > > What you are doing specifically will end up causing inconsistent data > > because you don't see us_ny_ny_co on signs and people won't tag it. > > Dear John, > > You underestimate the intelligence of OSM contributors and their > motivation to make the map better. Particularly you underestimate > their wish for better highway shields. You think increasingly > specific network tags are too complicated for OSM contributors? Are > you familiar with the great success of the Karlsruhe addressing > Schema?[1] ;-) > > They will tag it. Absolutely they will tag it. When Mapnik support > for local shields is adopted on osm.org and announced on talk-US it > will take less than 7 days for the US Interstate system to have shiny > new shields from coast to coast. I'll send you a bottle of Canadian > Maple Syrup if I am wrong. > after more than a year after tiger import still most US highways are untouched. have no or wrong ref values. broken connections .... the list is endless nothing will happen in 7 days. > > In the case of US interstate it should just be network=I, state > > highways network=S > > "S" and "I" are so lacking context as to approach line-noise. > "us_ny_ny_co" even hints at the right answer, without reading the > docs. > > you shouldn't use well established tags in the wrong way. us_ny_ny_co is not a network name. the network is I, US, .... network is useful for routing applications too and should be used as signed in reality. If we need a tag for mapnik rendering call it mapnik:<something> or shildsymbolizersomething .... > > That is enough information combined with a database or shape file with > > all the meta information about what shield exists in which location, > > Those are mandatory with your incomplete tags. They are optional with > explicit, human-readable tags. > > > and defaulting to UK style signs if a localised style hasn't been > > defined otherwise. > > I agree that failover to the UK style shield is better than nothing. > > Best regards, > Richard > > [1] > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/House_numbers/Karlsruhe_Schema > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >
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