Thanks to everyone for the responses so far to "Coordination for Haiti
mapping." While I concur with the responses so far, I would like to
emphasize that managing volunteer efforts to avoid duplication is applicable
to any major mapping initiative (humanitarian related or not) so it may be a
worthwhile idea to discuss with the broader OSM community.

I'd like to request that those of us focusing on the work in Haiti (and,
like myself, who didn't know about osm-emergency!) move our discussions to
the Google Group:
http://groups.google.com/group/osm-emergency with the understanding we may
post again here with queries about functionality that may apply to
everyone.

best,
Shadrock


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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:47:34 +0100
> From: Frederik Ramm <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re:  Coordination for Haiti Mapping]
> To: Jean-Guilhem Cailton <[email protected]>
> Cc: OSM-talk <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> Hi,
>
> Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
> > Note to administrator : would it be possible to raise the size limit for
> > this crisis situation?
>
> Maybe it is also prudent to recognise that while there is a crisis in
> Haiti, there is mapping as usual in many other regions of the world -
> some of it in regions that might become the next victim of a natural
> disaster.
>
> While most of us want to help where we can, OSM as a whole must not
> grind to a halt because there is a crisis in Haiti. There are tens of
> thousands of active OSMers around the world, and 400 of them are active
> in Haiti. Every Haiti message on this mailing list reaches a very high
> number of people who are not interested, and it is their right to be not
> interested - they are doing good work elsewhere.
>
> I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer
> helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can
> then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:58:27 +0100
> From: Pieren <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]
> To: Frederik Ramm <[email protected]>
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> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Frederik Ramm <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer
> > helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can
> > then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.
> >
>
> You say exactly what I'm thinking since a couple of days, but more
> diplomatically.
> +1 for an osm-haiti or a more general "osm-relief" mailing-list.
>
> Pieren
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> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:03:50 +0000
> From: "Dave F." <[email protected]>
> Subject: [OSM-talk] Railway Stations & relations
> To: OSM Talk <[email protected]>
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> Hi
>
> Many of the UK railway stations have a relation called site <Station name>:
>
> http://osm.org/go/euu4xiukT--
>
> What is the thinking behind this?
>
> I don't see what this adds to the description especially when building=*
> , landuse=* & railway=platform are also often used.
>
> Is it to do with routing?
>
> Cheers
> Dave F.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:09:19 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Adrian Brain <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]
> To: [email protected]
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> +1 from me too.
>
> Perhaps osm-humanitarian to cover future uses?
>
> Adrian
> osmapb1
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>
> --- On Wed, 27/1/10, Pieren <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Pieren <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]
> To: "Frederik Ramm" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "OSM-talk" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 16:58
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Frederik Ramm <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer
>
> helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can
>
> then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.
>
> You say exactly what I'm thinking since a couple of days, but more
> diplomatically.
> +1 for an osm-haiti or a more general "osm-relief" mailing-list.
>
>
> Pieren
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> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:09:13 +0100
> From: Lars Francke <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]
> To: Frederik Ramm <[email protected]>, OSM-talk
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> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 17:58, Pieren <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Frederik Ramm <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer
> >> helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can
> >> then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.
> >
> > You say exactly what I'm thinking since a couple of days, but more
> > diplomatically.
> > +1 for an osm-haiti or a more general "osm-relief" mailing-list.
>
> An OSM-emergency group has been established externally already:
> http://groups.google.com/group/osm-emergency
>
> I too agree with Frederik and couldn't have put it better.
>
> Cheers,
> Lars
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:11:06 +0100
> From: Martin Koppenhoefer <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Railway Stations & relations
> To: "Dave F." <[email protected]>
> Cc: OSM Talk <[email protected]>
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> 2010/1/27 Dave F. <[email protected]>:
> > Hi
> >
> > Many of the UK railway stations have a relation called site <Station
> name>:
> >
> > http://osm.org/go/euu4xiukT--
> >
> > What is the thinking behind this?
>
>
> site-relations are generally thought to group different parts and
> aspects of a site into one (including fences, entrances, ways,
> buildings, ...) object. This can be usefull in many regards, e.g. you
> can associate in your case (station) subway-entraces to the
> corresponding station.
>
> cheers,
> Martin
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:25:04 +0100
> From: Karl Guggisberg <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Mapping Radio and
>        TV Stations _ Help needed!]]
> To: [email protected]
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> Be careful with this list, we don't have the OK to import it into the
> OSM database yet. Sandra is currently investigating.
>
> Regards
> Karl
>
>
> Am 27.01.2010 17:40, schrieb Jean-Guilhem Cailton:
> > Attached kmz can be found there
> >
> >
> http://groups.google.com/group/osm-emergency/browse_thread/thread/c055cbea559bccf2
> >
> > -------- Message original --------
> > Sujet :       [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Mapping Radio and TV Stations _ Help
> > needed!]
> > Date :        Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:59:08 +0100
> > De :  Jean-Guilhem Cailton <[email protected]>
> > Pour :        OSM-talk <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> >
> > For info
> >
> > -------- Message original --------
> > Sujet :       [CrisisMappers] Mapping Radio and TV Stations _ Help
> needed!
> > Date :        Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:33:12 +0100
> > De :  Sandra Sudhoff <[email protected]>
> > R?pondre ? :  [email protected]
> > Pour :        <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Together with IMS (International Media Support) we have been mapping
> > radio and TV stations in Haiti in cooperation with Internews and AMARC.
> > The file is meant to give a general overview. I believe there will be a
> > more detailed assessment + map on a subset of the stations compiled and
> > distributed by Internews soon.
> >
> > Please find the kmz (compressed kml) attached. It requires you to have
> > Google Earth installed and a stable internet connection, as the kmz
> > contains a network link to Google Spreadsheets where we host the data to
> > ensure timely updates. (You just need to refresh the link)
> > It can also be downloaded from here:
> > http://www.cartong.org/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=106&func=s
> > elect&id=25
> >
> > We need help with the following stations, as we are not able to locate
> > them:
> >
> > Commercial Stations   Indigene, 109, Lalue ???????
> > Commercial Stations   Kadans FM, no address
> > Commercial Stations   Maxima, no address
> > Commercial Stations   Nouvelle Generation, Tel:
> > 509-256-0940;509-256-0941;509-256-0947,       Postal add: Delmas 64, No.
> 6,
> > Port-au-Prince
> > Community Stations    Voix de l'Est?re, L'Est?re,
> > http://www.haiti-reference.com/arts/media/media-tv.php
> > Community Stations    La Voix de l'?le, Cit? Bourgeoise, Anse ?
> > Galets, Ile de la Gon?ve
> > Community Stations    Voix Evang?lique de la Tortue, Pagne, Ile de la
> > Tortue
> > Community Stations    Communaut? Nord'Oues, no address,
> > http://www.haiti-reference.com/arts/media/media-tv.php
> > Print Media                   Haiti Progress, no address
> > Print Media                   Le Matins, no address
> > Print Media                   Le Moniteur, no adress
> >
> > Some of the almost 200 points are only approximated; if you happen to
> > know exactly where they are, we would appreciate if you could let us
> > know.
> >
> > Also any status update would be good, as for most we do not know whether
> > they are still operational.
> >
> >
> > Thanks a million!
> >
> > Regards
> > Sandra
> >
> > CartONG
> > 180, rue du Genevois
> > 73000 Chambery
> > France
> > [email protected]
> > +49 175 505 6413 (cell)
> > +33 4 79 26 28 82 (CartONG office line)
> >
> >
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> From: Colin Marquardt <[email protected]>
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> 2010/1/27 Adrian Brain <[email protected]>
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> > Perhaps osm-humanitarian to cover future uses?
>
> I'd vote for this name, because "osm-relief" could be read as
> "osm-contours" or something topographical like that.
>
> Cheers
>  Colin
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