On Feb 21, 2010, at 3:49 AM, Chris Hill wrote:

> SteveC wrote:
>> 2) We have to be very clear that the openstreetmap.org website is _awful_. 
>> Horrendous. A total PITA. We're all here because we're persistent with it. 
>> But the wonderful thing is - we don't have to make the tools and site easy 
>> to use if we can expose a simple bug system. It's very clear that nobody can 
>> convince Richard to actually write something any muggle would really want to 
>> use, you can scream at him to finish the mythical Potlatch 2 all you want, 
>> but he doesn't give a shit and lives on a boat in bliss. That's his choice, 
>> and it's totally fine, but if we all feel that way then we have to deal with 
>> the downside that every single day we lose tens of thousands of edits 
>> because of that monopoly on bad UI. All I'm suggesting is we sidestep the 
>> problem and connect people who can report a map bug but can't be bothered to 
>> deal with pain and suffering of potlatch with the people who can deal with 
>> it, at least until Richard gets his act together and stops fixing every 
>> stupid thing in
>>  the old codebase. You have to take a step back here and realise what we're 
>> missing out on.
>> 
> I really think you've lost the plot here Steve. You dreamed up a 
> *really* good idea in OSM, but why do you want to piss off some of the 
> people who have done the most to make it happen?

Fair point, I shouldn't have been that harsh and I apologise Richard, but I 
don't dissent from the basic points I'm making.

Yours &c.

Steve


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