Hi,

> 4. conversion of the wiki into OWL, so that the rules and relations of the OSM are documented formally.
see also
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Machine-readable_Map_Feature_list/OWL_Semantic_Wiki_and_more
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Machine-readable_Map_Feature_list
an attempt to maintain and harvest a machine-readable list of map features on and from the OSM wiki using
OWL, RDF, SemanticMediaWiki.

Note that this is more than a year old, and no progress has been made. JOSMs tageditor plugin now adopted a more pragmatic approach. I manually maintain a list of machine-readable map features (yet another list, in
addition to JOSM presets, and other lists).

> 4. conversion of the wiki into OWL, so that the rules and relations of the OSM are documented formally. That's the key issue. And the most difficult part. SemanticMediaWiki could help here, because people working with the wiki and its templates today would still work with the very same wiki and the more or less same templates. We had a prototype up and running a year ago. Emphasis on "prototype", though. Unfortunately, it never made into the production wiki (lack of hardware ressources at the time, also lack of interest in general).

"so that the rules and relations of the OSM are documented formally" describes the major obstacle here: a significant share (if not the majority) of OSM contributors doesn't see value in raising the level of formality

Regards
Karl

Am 11.03.2010 23:39, schrieb jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com:
Description :

Integration of the java swoop ontology editor into JOSM. A JOSM ontology plugin.

Work :

1. create a live mapping from OSM into RDF , so that the swoop can access the data in OSM without conversion.
2. be able to have the changes in the rdf be reflected back into the OSM.
4. conversion of the wiki into OWL, so that the rules and relations of the OSM are documented formally. 5. running of the pellet inference engine and all the other reasoning tools from swoop to infer new facts and validate the data. 6. encoding of the rules of the JOSM validator into OWL rules, maybe we will have to include new derived geometric things like if two ways intersect and also ways to only process data in a certain radius.

mike

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Graham Jones <grahamjones...@googlemail.com <mailto:grahamjones...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

    Hi,
    I agree that improving documentation would be  a really useful
    contribution to OSM, but Google are quite explicit that this is
    outside of the scope of GSoC
    
(http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#doc_proposals).

    A project along the lines of 'context sensitive help in OSM
    editors' could be a possibility though.  I have never worked on
    one of the main editors, so I have no idea how hard this would be
    from that point of view.  The Artifical Intelligence aspects are
    quite difficult in themselves though - it would have to try to
    guess what you would like to do from what you have just done -
    quite a challenge, but please add it to the list if you can manage
    to describe it!

    Regards


    Graham.


    On 11 March 2010 10:59, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
    <mailto:jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com>
    <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
    <mailto:jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

        lets put it in a different perspective :

        Make the documentation as part of the program!

        I would like to see for example a help system that is
        integrated to the wiki,
        Click on a tag, have it pull up the wiki entry, be able to add
        new unknown tags or rename them.
        We could even have an OWL Ontology created with a reasoning
        engine to specify rules for tagging.

        Really, the software should be so good that you dont need docs
        or videos.

        mike


        On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Peteris Krisjanis
        <pec...@gmail.com <mailto:pec...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            > GSoc
            > student pool is a very talented one - it would be good
            to use them for more
            > critical things. Of course, OSM unlike other projects is
            basically a
            > collection of tools maintained by various people, so
            difficult to achieve a
            > consensus.
            >>

            Having one place of knowhow of mapping is quite critical
            for project
            like OSM. And believe me, creating good documentation
            requires quite a
            skill and isn't easiest job in IT world as we would like
            to see.

            Cheers,
            Peter.

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