On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 13:29, Pierre-Alain Dorange <[email protected]>wrote:
> Chris Browet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I, as a OSM contributor, am looking to allow free and unrestricted access > to > > map data to everybody. > > Those clauses would mean that, potentially, I wouldn't be mapping for > > humanity but for the OSMF. > > You don't really map for "humanity" now, but for yourself. The actual > licence grant YOU rights on the data you put in OSM database, the change > is to "give" those rights the the OSMF that would represent the OSM > community. > Agreed, but given the choice, I'd rather put my data in public domain than to basically donate it to a specific, nebulous, entity. > With the CCBYSA licence each contributor has rights on what i put in the > database, so the copyright notice grants "contributors", with the new > licence the OSMF would be granted as the "community". SO OSMF could do > legal things if a compagny break the future licence (with the actual > licence, no one can legal attack a compagny that wouldn't respect > licence, because the CCBYSA do not protect data and because there is no > "central organisation")... > But what would "breaking the license" be? Take a snapshot and closing it? I don't care. However, depending on the vague definition of "free and open license", by accepting the new CT, I'm giving the OSMF the right to do exactly that and worse... > > I've seen often that the reply to this argument is that we must trust > OSMF, > > that it will make sure OSM is under good care. > > Honestly, in this world, who would trust a foundation whose members he > > doesn't know personally? Even if he would, what about future members? > > No one can know, but there is limitations in the Licence and CT. OSMF > can change licence to a free and open one not a closed one it can't be > done. > They definitely need to define that, it would help. "an OSI endorsed free and open license", maybe... - Chris -
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