On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 01:40 -0700, NopMap wrote: > Frederik Ramm wrote: > > > > Well there was an announcement on 14th June on this list and others by > > Mike Collinson saying that "we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday > > 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical". > > > > For anyone who had already agreed, this date passed unnoticed. What > > exactly did you miss - would you have liked another email that said "ok, > > we've really implemented it now"? > > > > Yes, exactly. As you properly quoted "or as soon..." makes this statement > rather vague. > > > Frederik Ramm wrote: > > > > Given that the clear intent to switch to phase 4 on Sunday was widely > > published, was that not enough? > > > > A clear no to this. "We intend to ... or maybe later" contains no statement > about whether anything has happened.
This commit (tagged "live") is a clear statement: http://git.openstreetmap.org/rails.git/commit/0a81411e68102cd8a755744bd4a1e2f6eafad549 I can see your point, but: More communication means a lot of additional work and is not something I would expect from those who handle the other parts. > What's more, there's also no hint on how to (not) proceed with re-mapping > data, as you suggested yourself, which will probably make things worse real > soon now. Quoting http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2011-June/058727.html Michael Collinson wrote: > I would emphasise there is currently no need to remove data from the > live database since the license is still CC-BY-SA. I believe there is no > urgency to do so until acceptances have been maximised, local issues > that have a near term solution have been addressed and there is a sense > of community consensus that it is time. I think "remove" is part of "re-map" and I agree we should wait "until acceptances have been maximised". Especially as it is not clear yet how to handle objects with mixed CC-only/CC+CT history. That is kind of vague, but I would not want to be nailed down to any old guesstimated numbers later. Waiting until we feel that "it is time" is fine with me. Mitja _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
