On 02/01/2013 08:54 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote:
I agree with what you're saying although I can't help thinking that if the OSMF can't take the risk of having some things in the wiki, the solution, for everyone's benefit, is to move the wiki to a server that's not paid for by the OSMF. I'm positive finding such a server wouldn't be difficult (in fact the home page says it is hosted at UCL & ByteMark -- so if the OSMF is neither hosting nor writing the content, should it accept the C+D? The admins *are* OSMF members, but they're not OSMF). The OSMF has at some point started assuming responsibility for what is being published in the database and now on the wiki. In the case of the database it makes sense for someone to give some level of warranty that the data in it in fact is legally usable, although the consequences of this step have had a terrible effect on the map and the community so far.
+1000000 Current situation is getting silly to the point that I'm seriously considering abandoning this project and leaving history tab, vector tiles and my other projects unfinished just to have peace of mind and work in a sane project with sane organization behind it like KDE. On one hand OSMF is telling us they don't want any strategic planning and involvement, on the other they are redacting and editing data and wiki. And this is possible mostly because what Andrzej said - that they host the servers (which I am personally grateful for - to the admins - no to people who use it for political bullshit like this). This is NOT how a project should work and you will only discourage people by doing such stunts. Either finally get your act together and prepare a proper organization like KDE e.v (http://ev.kde.org/) or get out of the project and leave it be. There is still plenty of energy that will fill the void after you (I'm talking to OSMF). Paweł _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
