Am 21.07.2013 22:01, schrieb Frederik Ramm: > Hi, > > On 21.07.2013 21:28, Kai Krueger wrote: >> It begs the question, if this high level design decisions shouldn't >> live on >> the design@ list instead of rails-dev or in the git-hub bug tracker. > > Yes, I can imagine that to some a "you only have to follow rails-dev" is > a very hitchhikers-guidesque response. > > My impression is this: > > 1. Lots of people re-iterate the mantra that mailing lists (and "talk" > in particular) are places where you'll only get flak for all your good > ideas, and endless "bikeshedding", and whatnot. I think that this is not > supported by facts. > > 2. Therefore if you do something you're tempted to ignore the mailing > lists, as everyone tells you they're the pits of hell. > > 3. Therefore, people on the mailing lists - even the majority that is > not troublemakers - feel sidelined, and complain. > > Often even *informing* people in advance could help a lot. > > I think that the situation would already be much improved if, when > something of greater importance pops up on rails-dev or elsewhere, > someone informs the "talk" list about that. For example, in the specific > case, once TomH had set up the working branch with the new UI, a quick > note should have gone up on talk: "look here this new design, being > discussed here in case you want to say something". A couple of people > might want to say something but the majority will just be pleased to > have been told about it. > > Anyone can do this cross-pollination of the talk list, and maybe we > should make it a habit.
+1 > I'll start with: > > Hi everyone, there's an idea to provide a new welcome/"landing" page > used to send new users to, or maybe those who come to OSM via one of the > sites using OSM maps. It can be viewed here > > http://welcome.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/welcome > > and the discussion is here > > https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/338 Please, use an own thread for announcements, otherwise they are often missed. colliar
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