Hi, This is a good problem to have. The http://coinmap.org/ web site has a video on how to had POI to OSM. We should ask them to update the video.
Thanks Jason. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Frederik Ramm <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > we're seeing a rising number of new ways and nodes which seem to be > added by people who create an account for just one purpose, namely > adding a business to the map. > > This could be great - if every business were to add themselves to the > map, we'd have a nice collection of POIs. > > However, in the case at hand, it seems that the interest is not to > improve OSM but instead we're just a vehicle for people to show up on > the "coinmap", a business directory for bitcoin-accepting businesses. > > It seems that a name and "payment:bitcoin=yes" is sufficient for that > site, with an optional advertising slug in the "note" tag. But for us, > not so much. First of all because advertising has no room in OSM; second > because many of these businesses seem to be not really "on the ground" > (but just a mail-order place that wants to have some marker somewhere), > third because they often don't contain even minimal information that > would make them useful to us. I've collected these objects created in > the past couple of days here > > http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/bitcoin.osc > > A few examples: > > <node id="2520077777" version="1" timestamp="2013-11-04T17:56:44Z" > uid="1795331" user="The Tobacco Seed Company" changeset="18716456" > lat="51.5442768" lon="0.7236584"> > <tag k="name" v="The Tobacco Seed Company"/> > <tag k="payment:bitcoin" v="yes"/> > <tag k="website" v="http://www.tobaccoseed.co.uk"/> > </node> > > This is blatant advertising for a web site. It doesn't even say what > kind of shop this is supposed to be. > > <node id="2523904649" version="1" timestamp="2013-11-08T04:46:05Z" > uid="1798995" user="mkondratov" changeset="18776505" lat="41.4183069" > lon="-81.694649"> > <tag k="name" v="Noosphere Ltd, Computer Repair"/> > <tag k="note" v="Computer Repair Services"/> > <tag k="payment:bitcoin" v="yes"/> > <tag k="phone" v="1-216-459-1994"/> > <tag k="website" v="http://www.noospherecomputers.com"/> > </node> > > This, too, is little more than a name on our map. We don't usually > include the field of business in the name - this should have been > expressed through a proper "shop" tag. > > <node id="2526590372" version="1" timestamp="2013-11-10T15:46:58Z" > uid="1801179" user="79s VOF" changeset="18818705" lat="52.372218" > lon="4.8653634"> > <tag k="name" v="79s VOF"/> > <tag k="payment:bitcoin" v="yes"/> > <tag k="website" v="https://store.79s.co"/> > </node> > > Spam. > > <node id="2537387222" version="1" timestamp="2013-11-18T01:07:54Z" > uid="1809524" user="webhostpl" changeset="18964238" lat="50.0727563" > lon="19.8938861"> > <tag k="domeny" v=""/> > <tag k="hosting" v=""/> > <tag k="name" v="Webhost.pl"/> > <tag k="payment:bitcoin" v="yes"/> > <tag k="strony internetowe" v=""/> > <tag k="website" v="http://www.webhost.pl"/> > </node> > > Broken tagging (quite frequent). > > <node id="2540057545" version="1" timestamp="2013-11-19T18:09:14Z" > uid="1651798" user="oldenburg69" changeset="18998877" lat="36.2026532" > lon="-115.0597195"> > <tag k="addr:city" v="Las Vegas"/> > <tag k="addr:housenumber" v="5216"/> > <tag k="addr:postcode" v="89156"/> > <tag k="addr:street" v="Glendale Ave."/> > <tag k="name" v="Hannig Fab Works"/> > <tag k="note" v="Hannig Fab Works LLC is a custom metal > fabrication shop specializing in creating high quality metal fixtures, > custom fabrication and metal art to customers in the Southern Nevada and > abroad via the internet."/> > <tag k="payment:bitcoin" v="yes"/> > <tag k="website" v="http://www.hannigfabworks.com/"/> > </node> > > Tagging is ok as far as the address node is concerned, but without a > shop tag the rest is kind of useless, and the "note" tag is not for your > marketing tagline. > > <node id="2548748273" version="1" timestamp="2013-11-24T14:38:32Z" > uid="1817212" user="l337 PLace" changeset="19091714" lat="60.1491622" > lon="24.6551426"> > <tag k="addr:city" v="Espoo"/> > <tag k="addr:housename" v="1337Place"/> > <tag k="addr:housenumber" v="4"/> > <tag k="addr:postcode" v="02320"/> > <tag k="addr:street" v="Espoonlahdenkatu"/> > <tag k="name" v="1337place.com (Logistics only)"/> > <tag k="note" v="Quality products shipping worldwide starting > @5EUR. BeagleBone Black and much more. U can pay with Bitcoin! #BTC > #Bitcoin"/> > <tag k="payment:bitcoin" v="yes"/> > <tag k="phone" v="+358466401678"/> > <tag k="website" v="http://www.1337place.com"/> > </node> > > Whatever BeagleBone Black is, this house is certeinly not called > "1337Place"... > > <node id="2563617422" visible="true" version="1" changeset="19261838" > timestamp="2013-12-03T21:42:21Z" user="EcoBox" uid="1828695" > lat="29.4561384" lon="-98.4193203"> > <tag k="moving boxes" v="moving boxes"/> > <tag k="name" v="EcoBox"/></node> > </node> > > What shall I say. The changeset comment contained something about > accepting bitcoin. > > This is all rather undesirable - people adding their business to OSM > would be great, but advertising isn't, and we'd prefer if they actually > used tagging that is used in OSM, rather than simply rushing in a name > tag and a location because that's enough to get listed on some third > party web site. > > I delete the ones I encounter when they're outright spam but I'm shying > away from suggesting some kind of automated cleaning job because I'm not > clear on what the minimum tagging should be on any node. We don't > currently have any such rules but seeing people dumping things into our > database that we can't use just so they're shown on coinmap seems a bit > strange. > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail [email protected] ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
