On 19/11/2015 11:52 AM, john whelan wrote:
HOT and OSM are slightly different, HOT maps on OSM but uses a simpler
more standardized approach. Many of their volunteers often do not
know enough English to write a meaningful change set comment.
HOT tends to map in areas that do not have a great deal of OSM mapping
already in place so I don't see that it really matters if they use
preset comments from the tile system. The HOT comment gives you the
task and tile number so you can look up on the tile system where it is
and also what has been asked for.
Then why cannot the task / tile number be expressed in English?? As the
location is already given, what is so hard about a simple statement of
the 'what' for the changeset?
Or are we now asking that all mappers on OSM have to be able to read
and write in English since that is the normal language for
communication in OSM or is one of the local African languages
sufficient. If it is then I assure you I won't be able to understand
what it says.
I have no problem with an entry in ANY language. Wolf, French etc etc. I
probably won't understand it directly ... but I can use a web based
translator.
I think one thing I like about HOT is the validation process, an
experienced mapper goes over the mapping and tries to eliminate as
many errors or mis-tags as possible and ensure that everything visible
in the image is mapped, and yes I understand armchair mappers are
looked down on by many mappers but the work they do is valuable in
many areas.
Cheerio John
On 18 November 2015 at 19:11, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org
<mailto:frede...@remote.org>> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to draw everyone's attention to a long-standing
community recommendation:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments
It explains why you should use sensible changeset comments that
describe
what you (think you) have been doing.
I don't know exactly who encourages this, but I am seeing lots of
changesets with comments like this:
#MissingMaps #hotosm-project-12345 Lubumbashi, Congo (DRC)
#100mapathons
#OSMGeoWeek
This is *not* useful. First of all, we're not Twitter; we don't
evaluate
these hashtags. I don't know if there are some downstream services
that
do, but if so, please switch to using a secondary tag (remember,
changesets, like other OSM objects, can have any number of tags).
As a reader of the edit history of a place, I am interested in someone
writing that they have traced buildings or drawn roads or done
whatever.
I'm not so much interested in (what I perceive as) vanity
hashtags, they
don't help me understand what the person did.
I mean look at this:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/history#map=6/8.418/43.923
It's really a caricature of what changeset comments were meant to be.
Can it be fixed somehow, or have we permanently moved from changeset
comments being aimed at your fellow human mappers to changeset
comments
being auto-generated for consumption by some software that makes sense
of them?
Bye
Frederik
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