I was thinking about possible changes to the tool that would make it a
useful tool for the community, and at the same time not violating any
policy.


On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Christoph Hormann <o...@imagico.de> wrote:
> On Monday 16 October 2017, Marc Gemis wrote:
>> Would Yuri's tool be OK, if the proposed changes were limited to
>> objects that were created/last edited after survey to the person that
>> is using the tool ?
>>
>> I was thinking of a scenario where people try to help with a
>> tag-renaming proposal.
>> Such a tool would be handy to help them locate all objects that they
>> know well and retag them.
>
> I think you are missing the point here - this tool's only purpose is
> doing automated edits.  The discussion if and under what circumstances
> automated edits are OK for the community is not the issue here, this is
> already regulated by the automated edit policy.
>
> Creating a tool for doing automated edits is perfectly fine, but
> designing it in a way and advertising it in a way that encourages
> automated edits in ignorance of existing rules is not.
>
> You probably recall that we have had discussions in how far Maproulette
> encourages mechanical edits
> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/imagico/diary/40759) but Martijn has
> always demonstrated he is aware of the problem and tries to avoid such
> abuse, for example by not allowing anonymous challenges and not having
> simple click through tasks with already fully predetermined editing
> decisions.
>
> In summary so far i think it can be said developers in the OSM context
> have overwhelmingly been responsible in the way they design tools in
> compliance with the spirit of the OSM community.  But this one is
> clearly different in that regard.
>
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