Hello everyone
I think there are some very reasonable ideas and discussion on this thread,
about how to describe the tasking manager, OSM, HOT, etc. We all can agree it's
complicated, and explaining this right is worthy of our time and energy. (One
additional complication to consider is that the tasking manager software is
used in lots of different scenarios, include every day mapping, so the tag line
may need to cover non-disaster situations as well.)
However ... I hope we can also agree that it is counter productive to start off
such discussions in such an argumentative pose. I hear a lot of distrust in
phrases like "misrepresentation", "claiming ownership", "exactly what HOT
doesn't do". It's emotionally draining for me to read things like this, and I
don't think I'm alone. There is always more we can learn from each other, about
what to do and how to do it. We are all here in OpenStreetMap because we love
the map. Can we please use that as a starting point in our interactions, and
focus on helping each other to make the map together?
Thanks-Mikel
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
On Monday, October 23, 2017, 7:59:41 AM MDT, Christoph Hormann
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Monday 23 October 2017, Simon Poole wrote:
> I suspect Christophs issue is more that HOT seems to be claiming
> ownership of "OpenStreetMap collaborative mapping".
Yes, this is one of my points. The other is that it fails to connect
the visitor to collaboration and communication within the OSM
community. The visitor is invited into what is being presented
as "OpenStreetMap collaborative mapping" but this whole concept as it
is being presented on that site seems to be carefully segregated from
the rest of the OSM community with its communication channels, wiki,
local communities etc.
No one can forbid HOT to do that but if they do so they IMO should not
present this under the name OpenStreetMap as "OpenStreetMap
collaborative mapping" in general or even as pars pro toto.
Or they could rework the site to properly present OpenStreetMap and HOT
and how they relate to the visitor. learnosm.org (which i think is
also mainly built by HOT) shows this is possible to do.
--
Christoph Hormann
http://www.imagico.de/
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