On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Ian Dees <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Oct 23, 2017 08:59, "Mikel Maron" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> However ... I hope we can also agree that it is counter productive to
> start off such discussions in such an argumentative pose. I hear a lot of
> distrust in phrases like "misrepresentation", "claiming ownership", "exactly
> what HOT doesn't do". It's emotionally draining for me to read things like
> this, and I don't think I'm alone. There is always more we can learn from
> each other, about what to do and how to do it. We are all here in
> OpenStreetMap because we love the map. Can we please use that as a starting
> point in our interactions, and focus on helping each other to make the map
> together?
>
>
> Yes, thanks for bringing this up Mikel. Combative questions and the
> assumption that the other party is trying to attack OSM makes threads like
> this extremely difficult to participate in. People interested in having a
> conversation about OSM avoid the mailing lists because of threads like this
> and it hurts our community.
>
> Thanks Mikel and Ian for your respectful push back. The talk list should
be a place of collaboration with respectful dialog as we all seek to
improve OSM.

Clifford



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