On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 7:11 PM Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 19/08/2020 22:44, Clifford Snow wrote: > > ... Instead of suggesting their users edit OSM, they instead instruct > them to email d...@openstreetmap.org, > > > Indeed, and by the time they get to us they are usually "rabbits of > negative euphoria"* because of the less than stellar support experience > they've had at AllTrails. > > Looking at e.g. > https://www.alltrails.com/explore/list/yorkshire-wolds-way?b_tl_lat=54.06089919948305&b_tl_lng=-0.7765960693359375&b_br_lat=53.9918264806059&b_br_lng=-0.6293106079101562 > I'm not surprised - to my eyes that really is a crime against cartography. > Zoom in, and you'll see that that useful-looking north-south path just > southeast of Thixendale is actually marked "(PRIVATE)", but at any scale > you might want to plan a route on it isn't. > > The explanation we have to give every time goes something along the lines > of: > > - No, we're not Alltrails support, and can't directly affect the way > that their map represents things. > - Yes, it's perfectly normal for the OpenStreetMap database to include > ways along which there is limited access (such as only the householder, or > perhaps other people in an emergency). > - Individual maps can choose what data to show and what not, and if a > map does a poor job of it that's really not an OpenStreetMap problem. > - While we'd love you to update OpenStreetMap yourself** (since you > know your local area better than we do) we're more than happy to try and > fix the OSM data if it's wrong - but we can't guarantee when (or even if) > any particular OSM-based map will show the changes. > > From Ron's quick and positive response to the attribution issue I am guessing he might be open to having a discussion about these other issues. Once the attribution issue is actually fixed, should I send him a note along those lines? Would you (Andy) be the appropriate contact for that discussion? Mike
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