I agree with Eleanor here; if you go onto, say, one of the Nokia forums, as soon as you say that you're using a screen reader, people start freaking out, and don't know how to help with your problems.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <[email protected]> To: "Talks Mailing List" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 14:46:47 +0100 Subject: Re: [Talks] BT yahoo email. > Neil if I had not received such information as this from Stephen Gigger who > has to be one of the most informed people on the use of Talks and mobile > phones, I would not now have my e-mail set up on my phone. I was then able > to pass this information on to someone only the other day who was > struggling, in fact a Talks dealer no less!!!! Like David said in one of > his earlier e-mails when asking about e-mail it surely is related to Talks > as we are using the phone with Talks as the screen reader to access the > information. If Talks is silent on e-mail, then we possibly need to discuss > what the possible reasons might be and if e-mail is not set up correctly > then that is one very good reason why Talks is not speaking. > > Eleanor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <[email protected]> > To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:13 PM > Subject: Re: [Talks] BT yahoo email. > > > > can I just remind folk that this is a Talks list, and whilst we can accept > > minimal interruption to that, where the group as a whole benefit, this is > > straying from that now. > > > > thanks. > > > > Twitter @neilbarnfather > > > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > > > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > On > > Behalf Of Stephen Giggar > > Sent: 07 September 2010 10:47 > > To: Talks Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Talks] BT yahoo email. > > > > That depends on what service provider youa re connecting to if it will be > > turned on or not. That also depends on if you are using pop over IMap and > > if > > > > you have to give it a dummy address so taht you can then configure the > > account acording to how you have it setup to be accessed. So saying the > > N86 > > does it by default isn't all the way true at all. IE I use GMail and I > > have > > it setup to use POP but the phone set it up as IMap. I had to delete the > > account being wants the phone set it up as IMap it wouldn't let me change > > it > > > > to pop. so I had to give it a dummy address and it couldn't verify it and > > hten let me select what type of accoutn it was. This was true for the E66 > > as > > > > well and other newer phones. I see no reason why it would be any different > > for the E72/E75. > > > > So saying it doesn it automatically isn't all the way true and this is > > most > > deffently true if you are not using what Nokia thinks is the > > standard/default. > > > > Signed: Stephen Giggar > > Skype: dr-phone. > > > > Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. > > No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bernard Hemmings" <[email protected]> > > To: "Talks Mailing List" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 4:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [Talks] BT yahoo email. > > > > > >> that happens by default on the n86 email client. > >> > >> Bernard Hemmings > >> email: [email protected] > >> Skype: Bernard Hemmings > >> Ftp server email: [email protected] > >> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net > >> Home: 61-02-95841280 > >> Mobile: 61-0412177799 > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Malcolm Parfitt" <[email protected]> > >> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:16 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Talks] BT yahoo email. > >> > >> > >>> Worth remembering if you're sending via BT Yahoo! You have to use > >>> authenticated smtp so your username and password have to be entered in > >>> the > >>> out going server section. > >>> > >>> For example on my E71 I go into Messaging, then Settings. Then e-mail. > >>> Choose your mail box and select edit. > >>> > >>> Choose out-going e-mail. > >>> Make sure your username and password are entered here. > >>> > >>> Steps may be different for your phone, I've not got access to an N86 to > >>> try, > >>> but I hope the above may give you a pointer. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> On > >>> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > >>> Sent: 06 September 2010 20:42 > >>> To: Talks Mailing List > >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] BT yahoo email. > >>> > >>> Something like that Bernard. I have to save David I really was not > >>> clear > >>> from your discription just what was going on so finding it difficult to > >>> advise more. I was wondering if the access point was giving some > >>> problem > >>> but it appeared that the messages were downloading OK to the phone > >>> except > >>> for his test message. I would wonder if the test message did not > >>> arrive, > > > >>> if > >>> he was at the computer and had his e-mail Outlook or whatever open. > >>> This > >>> would account for his test e-mail not arriving as it would have gone > >>> straight to his Outlook Inbox. > >>> > >>> Eleanor > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Bernard Hemmings" <[email protected]> > >>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <[email protected]> > >>> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 6:46 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] BT yahoo email. > >>> > >>> > >>>> as I understood it he can see them on his pc but when he connects with > >>>> the phone his mail box remains empty. > >>>> > >>>> Bernard Hemmings > >>>> email: [email protected] > >>>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings > >>>> Ftp server email: [email protected] > >>>> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net > >>>> Home: 61-02-95841280 > >>>> Mobile: 61-0412177799 > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <[email protected]> > >>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <[email protected]> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:50 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] BT yahoo email. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> As I understood it, he did get them on the phone, it was just that > >>>>> Talks > >>>>> was not telling him what was there. > >>>>> > >>>>> That is an important point David that you should be aware of. If the > >>>>> e-mails are on your phone, you go to your PC and download them as soon > >>>>> as > >>> > >>>>> you reconnect your phone to the server they are gone like a flash. > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Carin Headrick" <[email protected]> > >>>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <[email protected]> > >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 2:14 PM > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] BT yahoo email. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Also, if your PC pulled the email down, then they won't be around for > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> phone to grab. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Carin > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "Stephen Giggar" <[email protected]> > >>>>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" <[email protected]> > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 8:47 AM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] BT yahoo email. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Well to start out! You will ntot find a Check Mail option in Talks > >>>>>> being > >>> > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> Mail client isn't part of Talks. The mail program is part of the > >>>>>> phone. > >>>>>> <smile> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You'll probably need to check your SLS/PLS setting to maybe turn them > >>>>>> on/off > >>>>>> for the Mail client. If this is set incorrectly! The Nokia EMail > >>>>>> client > >>>>>> will > >>>>>> not be able to retrieve the EMail. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar > >>>>>> Skype: dr-phone. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. > >>>>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "David Griffith" <[email protected]> > >>>>>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" <[email protected]> > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:41 AM > >>>>>> Subject: [Talks] BT yahoo email. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>I have posted this question on a general blind computing list butt > >>>>>>>have > >>>>>>>had > >>>>>>> no response. I wonder if the Talks community have a suggestion. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have just tried to set up my BT Yahoo email account on my Nokia > >>>>>>> N86. > >>>>>>> I am connection through my wireless network at home. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The Nokia reports that the setup was successful but when I arrived > >>>>>>> at > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> Bt > >>>>>>> yahoo inbox on the phone the mailbox was empty. I had to get my > >>>>>>> daughter > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>> confirm this as Talks did not announce this. > >>>>>>> This was not true as the mailbox actually has 21 items in it which I > >>>>>>> have > >>>>>>> just downloaded to my Pc. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I also tried to send a test email from my phone to my own inbox. > >>>>>>> This > >>>>>>> was > >>>>>>> reported as being sent by Talks but has not been received by BT > >>>>>>> Yahoo. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have pop3 enabled on BT yahoo. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Pressing the option key under Talks only gives the option to > >>>>>>> disconnect > >>> > >>>>>>> or > >>>>>>> create or > >>>>>>> send mail. > >>>>>>> I have not found a check mail button on talks yet.. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The BT yahoo pages assume you will contacting via a dial up number > >>>>>>> rather > >>>>>>> than using a wireless network so it is difficult to tell what > >>>>>>> settings > >>>>>>> are > >>>>>>> not working. The phone appears to get into my mail account properly > >>>>>>> with > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> right password but does not seem to be able to detect any of the > >>>>>>> content > >>>>>>> in > >>>>>>> the mail boxes.. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Any suggestions? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Many thanks > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> David Griffith > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > >>>>>>> signature > >>>>>>> database 5426 (20100906) __________ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://www.eset.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Talks mailing list > >>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > >>>>>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Talks mailing list > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > >>>>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > >>>>>> and > >>>>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Talks mailing list > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > >>>>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > >>>>>> and > >>>>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Talks mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > >>>>> > >>>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > >>>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > >>>>> and > >>>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Talks mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > >>>> > >>>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > >>>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > >>>> and > >>>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Talks mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > >>> > >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > >>> and > >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > >>> > >>> > >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > >>> signature > >>> database 5429 (20100906) __________ > >>> > >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >>> > >>> http://www.eset.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > >>> signature > >>> database 5429 (20100906) __________ > >>> > >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >>> > >>> http://www.eset.com > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Talks mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > >>> > >>> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > >>> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > >>> and > >>> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Talks mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > >> > >> Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > >> eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > >> and > >> Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talks mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > > and > > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talks mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > > and > > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > Talks mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ > _______________________________________________ Talks mailing list [email protected] http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
