Firstly, please note I've amended the subject line, please folks, I've
preached about this multiple times, subject lines such as, "major
problem,"
what does this on Earth mean, a volcano has irrupted, an earthquake, come
on
now. this is neither a major problem nor anything like it.
Bernard the subject line should have read:
problem with Nokia (insert model) access points with Telstra.
In answer to your actual problem Bernard, it is far more likely that these
access points are hard coded into the Telstra FW of the phone, meaning
that
you cannot get rid of them in the traditional way. the only thing you
could
do is change the region code of your phone to prevent it from launching as
a
Telstra FW version of that phone, then do a fresh install of the FW from
Nokia. With the region code changed the phone will not have those AP's.
NOTE, this is a complex task and not to be undertaken without
comprehensive
instructions and technical knowhow. I suspect that Stephen Giggar or alike
will be able to furnish you with the exact instructions.
Please though, that is an off topic conversation, so if you decide to do
it,
please talk with Stephen off list.
Thanks.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On
Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
Sent: 12 September 2010 10:50
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] a major problem.
Bernard
Just a thought! If you get a new handset or you try a format! Leave the
Sim
card out in either case. This away when the phone comes up initially after
the format with no sim in it or it is a brand new phone with no sim in it.
Then install Talks with no Sim in it. Then try setting up your WiFi access
point and see if it works with no Sim ever being in the phone. This away
it
is hoped that there will be no access point in the phone at all when
starting out.
If this works with Talks with no sim ever being in the phone! Then put the
sim in the phone and power it up. When you get the messages from telstra
Cancel out of them with SoftKey2, do not accept them. Then go into your
inbox on the phone and delete the messages! Do not open them.
Now try again with using your access point with Talks and see what
happens.
Good luck!
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.
Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernard Hemmings" <[email protected]>
To: "talks" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:13 AM
Subject: [Talks] a major problem.
Well lists after nokia replaced the wifi chip in my e72 it still would
not
connect to the web via wireless networks there networks as well as mine.
they gave me a replacement handset but unfortunately not a new one but a
phone that was owned before by another telstra user. Guess what it has
the same problem.
You see telstra send 4 destinations containing 3 access points.
interestingly 2 of the destinations have the same name
"internet"
These protected destinations can not be removed not even by a hard reset.
I believe either the two destinations having the same name or the fact
they can not be deleted cause the format process to abort when the data
can't be deleted. After all formats never go round a problem unless a
skip process is built in. with my old e72 if the wlan wizard was open
it
would connect to sites addresses but this would not permit built in apps
that access their own servers to work.
With this handset I tried the way they used but still no go the invalid
server name keeps coming up. The status bar indicates it's connected to
the router and the lan works perfectly when I use the telexy software or
the home media feature.
I think Nokia this week when I go back to the service centre will have a
go at blaming talks. The handsets they tried last week would connect to
the web via wifi networks and they will point out that talks was not
installed. The telstra protected destinations were on this handset when
I got it there was no sticker on the screen and it did not have that new
mobile phone smell they all have when you take them from their box. If
you try and alter these protected destinations the error unable to edit
protected settings comes up. you can open the destinations and delete
the
access points. The nokia techs told me they can't delete the
destinations
either which I find a little difficult to believe, but if this is the
case
then it's no wonder the format or hard reset does not complete. As other
e72 owners are using the lates firmware with out this problem that is
obviously not the cause. If you format the handset with these telstra
destinations in place you get a beep after 20 seconds or so and the next
time you power up the phone I think it has another go at formatting
because you don't hear the power up music and 30 seconds after reboot you
hear a beep. My replacement handset did this the first time I powered it
up.
I don't know if other providers lock their destination in this way.
However it looks as if I may have discovered a problem in that handsets
running the same symian version as the e72 and their owners use telstra
if
a hard reset is performed the phone will not be able to use the internet
via their wireless networks. Keep in mind nokia techs tried to use the
net on 3 different WLANS with my e72 and they got the same error as I do
at home.
I've tried both factory reset and hard reset which won't make the problem
go away. As I am sick of visiting the nokia service centre I'm hoping
someone on the list who know more about phone than I do can suggest
something. Hopefully I am wrong re the telstra protected destinations.
Currently every web address I enter including
http://www.blindsea.com
returns the error invalid server name. When using the carrier's access
point it works perfectly.
Now a more synical person than myself would say it's Telstra trying to
make users use their data services, I'm not claiming this yet but I do
wonder how many others have run in to the problem but are to busy to
spend
days at their local nokia service centre and just use telstra's data
services and keep their usage to a minimum. all I have done is install
talks and set up my access point. No other software has been installed
on
this replacement handset.
Bernard Hemmings
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